What Makes A Good Trek Fan ?

[indolover]

So what makes a good trek fan ?

I have a friend who calls himself a better fan than me. He ask,s me questions on TNG VOY ENT DS9 and when i can,t remember or forget he mocks my so called vulcan intelligence ( No pun intended )

But when i ask him the names of the episodes he questions me on he can,t tell me and gives me a poor excuse. He tells me that TOS is rubbish and has never seen ST 2 TWOK all any of the TOS films . We are both the same age and have some great memory,s of Trek from all aspects of the franchise ,but to him i,m always the underdog .

So it got me thinking what makes a good trek fan ?

Feedback my fellow trek troi councilers. ? NS

i've never liked TOS; to me it's a load of poo.

I would say though that a good fan doesn't exist. Or at least is a relative concept.

 

[Willieck]

Indolover Wrote:-

I've never liked TOS; to me it's a load of poo.

Sacrilege !

 

[tau136]

Not a Data like knowledge of all things Trek but the ability to take it as a springboard for your own thoughts, musings & imaginings.

 

[Willieck]

Not a Data like knowledge of all things Trek but the ability to take it as a springboard for your own thoughts, musings & imaginings.

Hey, that's poetic.

 

[Willieck]

Indolover Wrote:-

I've never liked TOS; to me it's a load of poo.

Sacrilege !

If it hadn't been for that load of **** (your words, not mine) there wouldn't have been any Star Trek at all. Roddenberry had to start somewhere. Many of us Trekkies watched TOS before there was anything else and were blown away. It might have become somewhat dated, (for heaven's sake it was made nearly fifty years ago!) but it evolved into something a whole lot bigger than anybody could have imagined.

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

I have trouble with fans I meet IRL who state their opinions as facts. "Of course Voyager wasn't Star Trek and only appeals to teen boys" "TOS is so old it doesn't count" "Not counting that last movie of course which wasn't Trek at all because it changed the timeline".. I don't care if people dislike these things but it is hard to have a conversation with fans who state these "facts" as though they just exist for everyone to know.

We do accuse each other of being "bad fans" all the time in my house but it is in jest, LOL, usually when someone screws up a timeline factlet.

Indolover Wrote:-

I've never liked TOS; to me it's a load of poo.

Sacrilege !

If it hadn't been for that load of **** (your words, not mine) there wouldn't have been any Star Trek at all. Roddenberry had to start somewhere. Many of us Trekkies watched TOS before there was anything else and were blown away. It might have become somewhat dated, (for heaven's sake it was made nearly fifty years ago!) but it evolved into something a whole lot bigger than anybody could have imagined.

I often wonder if the "load of poo" brigade has that opinion of every tv show and movie from that era.

 

[Anji]

I could never stand going to Star Trek conventions because of the fanboys and their attitudes that they knew everything about the series and that I was just a stupid girl who had a crush on Captain Kirk.

So I understand your problem.

A good Star Trek fan is someone who knows his Trek but doesn't brag about it.

 

[Willieck]

I could never stand going to Star Trek conventions because of the fanboys and their attitudes that they knew everything about the series and that I was just a stupid girl who had a crush on Captain Kirk.

So I understand your problem.

A good Star Trek fan is someone who knows his Trek but doesn't brag about it.

Ha! Enthusiastic as I am I don't think you would ever find me at a Convention, although if there was one on my doorstep so to speak I might just be tempted.

 

[Lor'Vela]

A good Trek fan to me is someone who supports the series and wants to see it a success (or perhaps moreso). It's alright to dislike aspects of the series, but so long as you hold true to the above definition ultimately, then you are a good Trek fan IMO.

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

A good Trek fan to me is someone who supports the series and wants to see it a success (or perhaps moreso). It's alright to dislike aspects of the series, but so long as you hold true to the above definition ultimately, then you are a good Trek fan IMO.

That's a great definition. Support the show! Support the varying series and movies! Of course you will have some you prefer and some you may not particularly enjoy but.. SUPPORT THE FRANCHISE!

And if you don't support it stop whining about its (perceived) demise.

 

[Warped9]

I could never stand going to Star Trek conventions because of the fanboys and their attitudes that they knew everything about the series and that I was just a stupid girl who had a crush on Captain Kirk.

So I understand your problem.

A good Star Trek fan is someone who knows his Trek but doesn't brag about it.

Ha! Enthusiastic as I am I don't think you would ever find me at a Convention, although if there was one on my doorstep so to speak I might just be tempted.

I'm wondering if you may have preconceived notions of those who attend conventions. I've attended several over the years and rarely have I encountered obnoxious know-it-alls. Usually those I've met are quite pleasant and easy going. There can be some lively discussions in the panels, but that's as heated as I've ever seen it get. And contrary to popular misconceptions I found many of those in costume to be among the most unassuming and pleasant people.

I've never seen anything as personal and heated as I've seen in some of these forums.

 

[Nerys Myk]

I could never stand going to Star Trek conventions because of the fanboys and their attitudes that they knew everything about the series and that I was just a stupid girl who had a crush on Captain Kirk.

So I understand your problem.

A good Star Trek fan is someone who knows his Trek but doesn't brag about it.

Ha! Enthusiastic as I am I don't think you would ever find me at a Convention, although if there was one on my doorstep so to speak I might just be tempted.

When I lived in the SF bay Area there were always quite a few "at my door step". I only chose to attend a couple. Mostly because I didnt have to pay! I had friends on the con organizing commitee and in exchange for some art work and labor I got in free. It was enough to realize it wasn't my scene.

 

[Warped9]

Re: What Makes A Good Trek Fan?

I will add that the Cons I'm familiar with were fan organized rather than the more "professionally" commercial type Cons. I met several people from the States who remarked they enjoyed coming to Toronto Trek because it felt more old school and fan friendly than some of the larger commercial like Cons they had attended before.

Events were put on that were mostly oriented towards fan interests rather than just being an oversized dealers' room where everything has a price tag. And on a number of occasions fans could interact and speak directly with some of the featured Con guests.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Baycon was the one I attended a couple of time. It was a local affair and as I said I knew some of the people running it. Some of whom went from gopher to con chairmen over the years. I'm not much of a collector so dealers rooms bore me. I was more interested in the art shows and guest speakers.

I did go to one of the big corporate cons in San Francisco once.( I forget which) But I left the con for a breath of fresh air only to be greeted by a Gay Pride Parade. Not sure which was more outrageous.

 

[Tora Ziyal]

So what makes a good trek fan ?

I have a friend who calls himself a better fan than me. He ask,s me questions on TNG VOY ENT DS9 and when i can,t remember or forget he mocks my so called vulcan intelligence ( No pun intended )

But when i ask him the names of the episodes he questions me on he can,t tell me and gives me a poor excuse. He tells me that TOS is rubbish and has never seen ST 2 TWOK all any of the TOS films . We are both the same age and have some great memory,s of Trek from all aspects of the franchise ,but to him i,m always the underdog .

So it got me thinking what makes a good trek fan ?

Feedback my fellow trek troi councilers. ? NS

A good fan enjoys whichever incarnations of Trek he/she happens to like and doesn't put down other people for having different tastes or different levels of knowledge about Trek.

By my definition, the person you're describing is neither a good fan nor a good friend.

 

[Warped9]

I used to work with someone who liked VOY, a show I cannot stand in the least. I sometimes teased him for it, but I never put him down because of it and we got along well.

 

[Nerys Myk]

I was stuck working with a bunch of Star Wars kids ( well people between the age of 18 and 30) Star Trek was rarely a topic of conversation.

 

[Willieck]

I could never stand going to Star Trek conventions because of the fanboys and their attitudes that they knew everything about the series and that I was just a stupid girl who had a crush on Captain Kirk.

So I understand your problem.

A good Star Trek fan is someone who knows his Trek but doesn't brag about it.

Ha! Enthusiastic as I am I don't think you would ever find me at a Convention, although if there was one on my doorstep so to speak I might just be tempted.

I'm wondering if you may have preconceived notions of those who attend conventions. I've attended several over the years and rarely have I encountered obnoxious know-it-alls. Usually those I've met are quite pleasant and easy going. There can be some lively discussions in the panels, but that's as heated as I've ever seen it get. And contrary to popular misconceptions I found many of those in costume to be among the most unassuming and pleasant people.

I've never seen anything as personal and heated as I've seen in some of these forums.

I wasn't having a go at people who attend conventions. I just don't think it would be my thing.

 

[RandyS]

I have trouble with fans I meet IRL who state their opinions as facts. "Of course Voyager wasn't Star Trek and only appeals to teen boys" "TOS is so old it doesn't count" "Not counting that last movie of course which wasn't Trek at all because it changed the timeline".. I don't care if people dislike these things but it is hard to have a conversation with fans who state these "facts" as though they just exist for everyone to know.

We do accuse each other of being "bad fans" all the time in my house but it is in jest, LOL, usually when someone screws up a timeline factlet.

Indolover Wrote:-

Sacrilege !

If it hadn't been for that load of **** (your words, not mine) there wouldn't have been any Star Trek at all. Roddenberry had to start somewhere. Many of us Trekkies watched TOS before there was anything else and were blown away. It might have become somewhat dated, (for heaven's sake it was made nearly fifty years ago!) but it evolved into something a whole lot bigger than anybody could have imagined.

I often wonder if the "load of poo" brigade has that opinion of every tv show and movie from that era.

Obviously I can't speak for everybody, but I think so. It's been my experience that the younger you are, the less you seem to like older things. For example, I'm 40, and one of my neighbors is 26. We have spent hours discussing which shows and movies are better. He seems to be of the opinion that anything made before 1990 is automatically shit. He had never heard of MASH until I should him my DVD's. He didn't like the show, and while he has heard of Star Trek (his dad is as big a fan as I am), he doesn't like that either. He thinks there should be rap music in it, an opinion I STRONGLY disagree with.

 

[Trekwatcher]

A good Trek fan enjoys Star Trek. That's about all there is to it in my book.

This reminds me of when Jesse Ventura ran for Governor of Minnesota. He was asked by a reporter what made him qualified to be Governor. He responded that he was over 25 years of age and had lived in the state for more than a year, and according to the state constitution, that was all he needed.