What kind of Star Wars book would you like to see from Trek Authors?
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Re: What kind of Star Wars book would you like to see from Trek Author
Sci posted:
Many of these books have about as much action in them as The Buried Age had. I dont see the problem.
Who said the book or even a movie can just be about a galactic civil war?
Sci posted:
The Lost Ribe of the Sith books dont have war in them, Death troopers is a self-contained horror story, so is Red Harvest, Darth Bane: Rule of Two, Darth Bane: Dynasty of Evil, http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Darth_Bane:_Dynasty_of_EvilCloak of Deception by Luceno are primarily about intrigue, Rogue Planet by Greg Bear is a deeply philosophical story with wery little action, The Approaching Storm by Alan Dean Foster has a wery little conflict contained to one planet.
Many of these books have about as much action in them as The Buried Age had. I dont see the problem.
Who said the book or even a movie can just be about a galactic civil war?
Re: What kind of Star Wars book would you like to see from Trek Author
Yeah, but only as a backdrop for old-fashioned movie serial heroics. Go back and watch the original trilogy again. It's not really about the politics. It's about the adventure.
And the ray-guns and the space monsters and the chain metal bikinis . . . .
Yeah, but only as a backdrop for old-fashioned movie serial heroics. Go back and watch the original trilogy again. It's not really about the politics. It's about the adventure.
And the ray-guns and the space monsters and the chain metal bikinis . . . .
Re: What kind of Star Wars book would you like to see from Trek Author
I'd like any Trek writer to write a Picard expy and have him rip Han Solo a new one for shooting first.
You don't know Greedo wasn't going to just walk away peacefully!
I'd like any Trek writer to write a Picard expy and have him rip Han Solo a new one for shooting first.
You don't know Greedo wasn't going to just walk away peacefully!
Re: What kind of Star Wars book would you like to see from Trek Author
I like the suggestion of Diane Duane a lot-- her ability to blend the scientific with the fantastic would suit the Force and the Jedi perfectly. It is now a crime against society that this book does not exist.
I like the suggestion of Diane Duane a lot-- her ability to blend the scientific with the fantastic would suit the Force and the Jedi perfectly. It is now a crime against society that this book does not exist.
Re: What kind of Star Wars book would you like to see from Trek Author
Yeah, but that doesn't have to involve scenes of actual armed combat. There are lots of other things you can focus on. Politics, espionage, the life of the people back home while conflict is being waged elsewhere, etc.
The only reason Lucas called it Star Wars is because that sounded like Star Trek. He was trying to make his fun little space-adventure movie more popular by latching onto the coattails of a big, successful franchise. People tend to forget that these days, given how successful SW became, vastly beyond what anyone ever expected. And really, the only reason Lucas created SW is because he failed to get the rights to what he really wanted to make, a Flash Gordon movie. He didn't go into this with the goal of some political treatise on galactic civil war -- that's bull. He wanted to do Flash Gordon, and when he couldn't get the rights to the real thing, he made up a knockoff of it. His original title for it was something like The Adventures of the Starkiller, with The Star Wars being the subtitle to chapter 1.
I mean, really, how much actual war is there in the original trilogy? Does the rebellion against the Empire really constitute a civil war, or just an uprising? Even if it does, there's little in the way of formal battles in the original film -- nothing until the Battle of Yavin, and that's basically a fighter raid. The second film gives us the Battle of Hoth, but afterward, it's a much smaller story, one plot about Luke training on Dagobah and one about Han and Leia falling in love and getting betrayed by Lando. The only film out of the original three that really has a significant focus on warfare per se, i.e. one where the majority of the story consists of the characters participating in a combat operation, is ROTJ.
I don't know too much about SW history, but was there even a state of civil war existing before Yavin, or before Palpatine dissolved the Senate? The impression I've always had was that while the Senate still existed, it was able to impose some checks on the Emperor's power and preserve some degree of liberty and justice within the Empire. Otherwise why would Palps have needed to dissolve it, if it was just a rubber stamp for him? And certainly the fact that Senator Leia Organa was a noted voice of dissent indicates that the Senate had some autonomy, some ability to counteract the Emperor's power. I've always figured it was the dissolution of the Senate at the start of ANH, along with the launch of the Death Star, that sparked a new wave of resistance -- that once it became clear that the Empire was no longer tolerating political dissent, that left no other means of resistance besides armed rebellion. I grant that the Rebel Alliance existed before then, but until then, they weren't the only voice of dissent and probably weren't as militant. At least, that's how it's always seemed to me. So I can see a book set before the original film being more focused on the political and social aspects of Imperial rule and resistance than on guns and bombs and battles.
Yeah, but that doesn't have to involve scenes of actual armed combat. There are lots of other things you can focus on. Politics, espionage, the life of the people back home while conflict is being waged elsewhere, etc.
The only reason Lucas called it Star Wars is because that sounded like Star Trek. He was trying to make his fun little space-adventure movie more popular by latching onto the coattails of a big, successful franchise. People tend to forget that these days, given how successful SW became, vastly beyond what anyone ever expected. And really, the only reason Lucas created SW is because he failed to get the rights to what he really wanted to make, a Flash Gordon movie. He didn't go into this with the goal of some political treatise on galactic civil war -- that's bull. He wanted to do Flash Gordon, and when he couldn't get the rights to the real thing, he made up a knockoff of it. His original title for it was something like The Adventures of the Starkiller, with The Star Wars being the subtitle to chapter 1.
I mean, really, how much actual war is there in the original trilogy? Does the rebellion against the Empire really constitute a civil war, or just an uprising? Even if it does, there's little in the way of formal battles in the original film -- nothing until the Battle of Yavin, and that's basically a fighter raid. The second film gives us the Battle of Hoth, but afterward, it's a much smaller story, one plot about Luke training on Dagobah and one about Han and Leia falling in love and getting betrayed by Lando. The only film out of the original three that really has a significant focus on warfare per se, i.e. one where the majority of the story consists of the characters participating in a combat operation, is ROTJ.
I don't know too much about SW history, but was there even a state of civil war existing before Yavin, or before Palpatine dissolved the Senate? The impression I've always had was that while the Senate still existed, it was able to impose some checks on the Emperor's power and preserve some degree of liberty and justice within the Empire. Otherwise why would Palps have needed to dissolve it, if it was just a rubber stamp for him? And certainly the fact that Senator Leia Organa was a noted voice of dissent indicates that the Senate had some autonomy, some ability to counteract the Emperor's power. I've always figured it was the dissolution of the Senate at the start of ANH, along with the launch of the Death Star, that sparked a new wave of resistance -- that once it became clear that the Empire was no longer tolerating political dissent, that left no other means of resistance besides armed rebellion. I grant that the Rebel Alliance existed before then, but until then, they weren't the only voice of dissent and probably weren't as militant. At least, that's how it's always seemed to me. So I can see a book set before the original film being more focused on the political and social aspects of Imperial rule and resistance than on guns and bombs and battles.
Re: What kind of Star Wars book would you like to see from Trek Author
Exactly. I was thinking of her Rihannsu politics and her take on Vulcan esper powers, and to me that screamed out "Old Republic" and "Galactic Senate" and "Political Skullduggery."
QFT.
Re: What kind of Star Wars book would you like to see from Trek Author
I would like to see any of the Star Trek writers write for Star Wars, as long as they could give us something that wasn't the 42nd iteration of the same friggin' story over and over and over and over again.
I would like to see any of the Star Trek writers write for Star Wars, as long as they could give us something that wasn't the 42nd iteration of the same friggin' story over and over and over and over again.
Re: What kind of Star Wars book would you like to see from Trek Author
There aren't enough thumbs up in the world to express how true this is.
There aren't enough thumbs up in the world to express how true this is.
Re: What kind of Star Wars book would you like to see from Trek Author
No, I was asking about the period between the trilogies, immediately preceding the original Star Wars (or A New Hope as people call it these days). The period when the Emperor ruled but the Senate still existed.
No, I was asking about the period between the trilogies, immediately preceding the original Star Wars (or A New Hope as people call it these days). The period when the Emperor ruled but the Senate still existed.
Re: What kind of Star Wars book would you like to see from Trek Author
Seven words: "Jar Jar Binks: Intergalactic Man of Mystery".
Seven words: "Jar Jar Binks: Intergalactic Man of Mystery".
Re: What kind of Star Wars book would you like to see from Trek Author
So how many have you read or are you just going on hear say?
So how many have you read or are you just going on hear say?
Re: What kind of Star Wars book would you like to see from Trek Author
I'd love the opportunity to write fiction in the Star Wars universe. I consider Star Trek my "first fandom", but Star Wars was the first experience I had of a movie that really struck a chord with me as a kid. Penning a Star Wars tale is up there on my checklist of "stuff I'd like to write".
I've actually already written a fair bit of official Star Wars stuff, but none of it is prose - articles for Star Wars Magazine, Star Wars Gamer and the Official Star Wars Fact Files. It'd be cool to do something like the X-Wing novels...
I'd love the opportunity to write fiction in the Star Wars universe. I consider Star Trek my "first fandom", but Star Wars was the first experience I had of a movie that really struck a chord with me as a kid. Penning a Star Wars tale is up there on my checklist of "stuff I'd like to write".
I've actually already written a fair bit of official Star Wars stuff, but none of it is prose - articles for Star Wars Magazine, Star Wars Gamer and the Official Star Wars Fact Files. It'd be cool to do something like the X-Wing novels...
Re: What kind of Star Wars book would you like to see from Trek Author
There have been a few writers of Trek novels who have already written Star Wars novels-with mixed results.
K.W Jeter wrote the Bounty Hunter Wars trilogy, A.C Crispin wrote the second Han Solo trilogy, and Vonda Mcintyre wrote The Crystal Star.
The Han trilogy was good (Although I thought having him help the alliance before the films sort of screws up his arc in the films). The others, pretty bad.
There have been a few writers of Trek novels who have already written Star Wars novels-with mixed results.
K.W Jeter wrote the Bounty Hunter Wars trilogy, A.C Crispin wrote the second Han Solo trilogy, and Vonda Mcintyre wrote The Crystal Star.
The Han trilogy was good (Although I thought having him help the alliance before the films sort of screws up his arc in the films). The others, pretty bad.
Re: What kind of Star Wars book would you like to see from Trek Author
Barbara Hambly, Greg Bear wrote novels for Wars after writing for Trek. Judith and Garfield Reeves-Stevens, Esther M. Friesner, John Gregory Betancourt and Jerry Oltion contributed to the "Tales From..." series in addition to their Trek work.
On the flip side Kevin J. Anderson and Rebecca Moesta wrote "The Gorn Crisis" and one of the DS9 YA books as Kem Antilles.
Barbara Hambly, Greg Bear wrote novels for Wars after writing for Trek. Judith and Garfield Reeves-Stevens, Esther M. Friesner, John Gregory Betancourt and Jerry Oltion contributed to the "Tales From..." series in addition to their Trek work.
On the flip side Kevin J. Anderson and Rebecca Moesta wrote "The Gorn Crisis" and one of the DS9 YA books as Kem Antilles.
Yevetha
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Re: What kind of Star Wars book would you like to see from Trek Author
I loved At the Crossroads: The Spacer's Tale by Oltion, thanks for remiding me of it.
Swallow posted:
I hope after FOTJ they stop these long series featuring the big three.
My hopes seem well founded considering the upcoming SW books.
I loved At the Crossroads: The Spacer's Tale by Oltion, thanks for remiding me of it.
Swallow posted:
I hope after FOTJ they stop these long series featuring the big three.
My hopes seem well founded considering the upcoming SW books.
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