You basically can create a "Techno Ninja" that functions like Naruto's Ninja's.
What kind of Martial Arts would StarFleet be teaching to it's Officers?
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The real mystery: did Kirk actually make butt-to-face contact, or did he let go an SBD that subsequently knocked the Orion flat on his back?The Flying Butt Slam
I don't disagree with you, but you do need to train for the eventuality of hand to hand combat with no other weapons.
That's just a reality of combat, sometimes, it goes back to martial basics or melee weapons.
That's why I seperated out Marksmenship ability & using Small Arms as it's own seperate training category.
If you're packing multiple weapons, hand to hand combat becomes less eventual. Lose one, you just pull another.
Let's say you don't have any projectile launching weapons anymore because you were disarmed.If you're packing multiple weapons, hand to hand combat becomes less eventual. Lose one, you just pull another.
Everything is down to melee weapons or hand to hand combat.
Take your pick.
What then?
Martial arts aren't just about fighting, of course. If anything, they're more about avoiding a fight, learning how to defuse a situation with the minimum necessary force, which would certainly appeal to Starfleet. More fundamentally, they're about self-discipline and physical and mental conditioning. They're about technique and skill, which can be applicable in a variety of ways -- for instance, principles learned in martial arts could be applied to starship combat, in terms of avoiding and redirecting attacks, employing movement and misdirection, thinking strategically, etc. Or they could be applied to diplomacy, showing people how to let go of their aggression and fear rather than being ruled by them. The philosophy of martial arts could probably be applied to engineering or operations as well, since it's all about channeling energy and effort in the most productive, least wasteful way.
Which Martial Arts have you studied in your life?
None in actual practice, though I sometimes wish I had. But I've always been interested in the subject and have read about the principles and philosophies involved.
Anyway, how many people here have studied phaser combat? We're talking theory here.
Phaser Combat can be very analogous to modern day Small Arms Combat, just without bullet drop compensation needed in their Marksmen-ship training since you're firing Energy Projectiles as seen in ST: Picard Season 2. The rest of the movement, aiming, breath control, training, positioning would largely apply.
Robert Heinlein, is that you?
Nope, I'm just being practical.
Just because you're disarmed of your projectile launcher, doesn't mean the fight is over.
Sometimes there is no surrender, there is no give up, there is no quitting.
Either Fight to Survive or Die.
I want every StarFleet Officer to "Fight to Survive"! "To Win if possible & Complete their objectives if practical".
I don't want to see StarFleet Officers act like Klingons where "Today is a good day to die".
I believe in more of the B5 Rangers motto:
"We live for the One, we die for the One; but we don't die stupidly"
Sighs...jokes are hard in text.
So a typical night at the pub after you're drunk!
I don't know if that was in response to me, but I never said anything about mysticism. I said that martial arts aren't just about punching and kicking, but are more about technique, discipline, state of mind, and how to use those things to resolve situations with a minimum of violence or harm. Trained fighters, whether in martial arts or military combat, know that the preferable option in any case is to avoid a fight altogether. Not just for ethical reasons, but for practical ones, since no matter how skilled or confident you are, getting into a fight entails a risk of getting hurt or killed, and it's wiser to minimize that risk.
And it should just be common sense that skills and ways of thinking you learn in one discipline can be useful in others. Martial arts are fundamentally about training the mind and body, about mastering focus and discipline, about constantly striving to improve. The term kung fu literally means effort devoted to a task, and applies to any skill that requires hard work over an extended period to master. The values of self-discipline, hard work, and determination to improve have obvious benefits to Starfleet, independently of any matters of combat.
Well, head butting is so effective, MMA won't let you do it.
My combat style is pretty simple.
1. Avoid fighting. It's a good way to get hurt. If some guy wants to fight you, he thinks he can beat you. He may be right. Plus, personal injury attorneys are a thing.
2. Use a weapon if you have one. And the longer range, the better. Most Bible stories feature miracles, but David vs. Goliath is just a matter of skill and range vs. brute strength.
3. Don't hit the hard places with your fists.
My combat style is pretty simple.
1. Avoid fighting. It's a good way to get hurt. If some guy wants to fight you, he thinks he can beat you. He may be right. Plus, personal injury attorneys are a thing.
2. Use a weapon if you have one. And the longer range, the better. Most Bible stories feature miracles, but David vs. Goliath is just a matter of skill and range vs. brute strength.
3. Don't hit the hard places with your fists.
Yup. This is why the Klingons' dependence on bat'leths and mek'leths strikes me as kind of silly. In real, historical combat, so I gather, up-close swordfighting wasn't used nearly as much as it is in fiction, because of the danger involved. Real samurai favored bows and spears; the mythology of the katana as the archetypal samurai weapon evolved in later centuries after the samurai class had become largely deskbound bureaucrats romanticizing their past. It's probably much the same as in European combat, where I gather that swords were more of a status symbol for the wealthy than an everyday weapon, used more in one-on-one dueling than in wartime, because they were expensive and flashy and easily broken.
Come to think of it, I suspect that the fictional trope of swords being the preferred weapon of warriors of all types evolved in the theater, because it's easier to depict a swordfight onstage than ranged combat with arrows or spears.
Although I've been told by people in the know that in close-quarters fighting, like in starship or space station corridors, a blade can be preferable to a firearm, due to the risk of friendly fire or the difficulty of aiming a ranged weapon up close. So it kind of makes sense there. But a small blade like a d'k tahg probably makes more sense there than a huge, elaborate sword.
Arguably the most successful sword in history was the Roman gladius, which was really just a dagger on steroids.
It's also notable that most modern special forces issue knives and train their people to use them, but their blades are typically quite short. The blades on this list are typically around six inches, and some are only around four: https://www.marineapproved.com/best-combat-knives-review/
It's also notable that most modern special forces issue knives and train their people to use them, but their blades are typically quite short. The blades on this list are typically around six inches, and some are only around four: https://www.marineapproved.com/best-combat-knives-review/
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