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Yeah, I don't know what you're complaining about, because I like the substitution.
What is YOUR flying car?
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Yeah, I don't know what you're complaining about, because I like the substitution.
It would be you, but also you who split off from the original you. Also when you get down to it, we can't fully know that whatever it is that we consider to be "us" survives when you go to sleep. You could die when you sleep, then a perfect copy with your memories wakes up in the morning.
Sweet dreams.
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Feh. I know I'm me when I go to sleep and wake up. The sacred party goat tells me when it whispers my lullabies.
Don't bring reality and facts into this.
^Sorry.
Better?
Better?
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That's crazy, tsq. You don't wear black boots with black spots.
I was actually speaking more philosophically. What's the difference between a continuous existence and one that only thinks it has a continuous existence to the mind?
I know. I was just teasing. That GIF is just such a happy opposite of reality and facts.
I agree it's a good question, it just does't apply sleep. While wakefulness certainly isn't continuous, there are plenty of other functions of the brain that are. And even without all the fancy equipment to look at a sleeping brain, I think dreams offer pretty good evidence of continuity as they're usually in some way (however bizarrely, peripherally, or tangentially) related to recent waking thoughts and experiences, and we retain some memory of them.
What if there were Too Many J. Allens?
^What are you on about? There could never be enough.
It still isn't 100%, there are periods where you lose consciousness and don't even dream.
I know. I was just teasing. That GIF is just such a happy opposite of reality and facts.
I agree it's a good question, it just does't apply sleep. While wakefulness certainly isn't continuous, there are plenty of other functions of the brain that are. And even without all the fancy equipment to look at a sleeping brain, I think dreams offer pretty good evidence of continuity as they're usually in some way (however bizarrely, peripherally, or tangentially) related to recent waking thoughts and experiences, and we retain some memory of them.
I also want A.I., which would probably exist by the time we figured out how to perfectly simulate a person's brain. Something on the level of Samantha in Her would be great.
Indeed. We need to manage to make a wholesale version of J. The world would be so much more kinder and happier.
^Yes!
Well, yeah, but like I said before, there is plenty else that your brain is doing that is continual throughout any stage of consciousness, including sleep, so the continuity problem just doesn't apply. You're functioning at varying levels of consciousness throughout waking and sleeping, but functional continuity is broken all the time...even when awake you can be in states where you're only minimally conscious of your surroundings, like daydreaming, or selectively conscious, for example due to inattention blindness. The continuity problem doesn't apply to those situations, so why should it apply to sleep? If you're basing continuity solely on stream of consciousness (which doesn't make sense, given how the brain works), then maybe I could see an argument for anesthesia-induced unconsciousness...I mean, that at least feels like your brain has been completely off, with you counting down in the operating room one instant and waking up in recovery the next, with not even a sense of time passing. But with sleep? No way. Functional continuity is irrelevant to the continuity problem, because the continuity problem is about the continuity of the mind, not just one aspect of it.
I see one flaw in your logic, if you could have multiple versions of yourself could the same not also be true of your opponents?
My personal Flying Car is space travel and colonization. When I was sitting there watching Neil Armstrong plant that flag, I never would have believed we'd have accomplished so little in the next half century.
Also, Asimov-style Robot friends.
The solution to the continuity issue is simply maintaining continuity-- i.e., gradual upgrades.
Also, Asimov-style Robot friends.
I've been waiting for that since the 60s. Make love, not war. Yeah, right.
I want to see new movies with Humphrey Bogart.
The difference is that I don't want to take any chances.
The solution to the continuity issue is simply maintaining continuity-- i.e., gradual upgrades.
The difference is that I don't want to take any chances.
That's what you'd have to do. I read a book where people used a warp network that could backup your body and memories. Since it was the most common form of travel, if something happened you just pop out at your most recent destination. It does mention that it is confusing if you forget to backup yourself.
I prefer it old school and play against people in the room. Having a Lan Me Party seems like a decent time.
This!! Hoverboards serve not much use but would be beyond incredibly fun.
IDEALLY we should have flying horses first.
