Discussion in 'General Trek Discussion' started by jpch, Dec 28, 2012.
I voted for my crack candy series, which is VOY.
Well, let's see...
The production was licensed by Paramount, overseen by Roddenberry, had scripts by Fontana and Gerrold among others and had the entire cast back in their original roles minus Walter Koenig (who wrote The Infinite Vulcan). Plus elements of the show were used in DS9, ENT and Star Trek 2009.
If you can show me a fan film that has all those elements, then I'd say add them to the list.
And having TAS there would only serve to siphon off votes from TOS. Which I'm sure would make some Modern Trek fans feel better about their respective series.
Spot on - my sentiments exactly, Garrovick.
oh!!! i really did not know all of this,thank you for the information.
I am actually really loving Voyager. I just started the 4th season and I think it's great. It's the crew relationships that I love the most.
1 - TMP - TUC (To me, this is the best collection of movies ever. The stories, action, character relationships, production, music, all of it.)
2 - DS9 (This is now my favorite of the TV series. Even the guest character development rivals some main character development of other Trek series. These characters really had depth. And such great stories that actually impact the characters long term. It has the best series finale I've ever seen. I had tears in my eyes, which came as a surprise to me because I've never cried over a TV show.)
3 - TNG (I watched this show growing up, then the re-runs in high school. Loved it. I just love DS9 more now.)
4 - Trek '09 (I just thought this was a fun ride. I loved the music, the actors, and the shockingly awesome production quality, and for the most part I enjoyed the story. And of course, Leonard Nimoy! JJ's take on the series was different, and that was refreshing in a way. BUT...the villain seemed to be an afterthought. They went through his back story so quickly. And I didn't really care about him the way I "cared" about and at least understood Khan, for example.)
5 - TNG movies (I have it at #5, but that doesn't mean I don't like them. I saw all of these in the theater and have watched them several times. Just like with TFF, there are things about most of the films that bother me, but the great moments outnumber the bad for me. First Contact was my favorite, and I actually enjoyed Generations. I was excited to see the two captains together, the Enterprise B, the old sea boat, Data going wacko -- I enjoyed all of that. And I was surprised how much I enjoyed Dennis McCarthy's score, but I did enjoy Goldsmith, Horner and Eidelman's scores more. Actually, my favorite Goldsmith score (other than TMP) is First Contact. What a beautiful melody. But I digress. Nemesis was okay. I just wish they let Patrick Stewart play both Picard and Shinzon. I think that would have helped a lot for me.)
6 - TOS (I am so thankful for the series that started it all. I have watched the entire series, but it was mostly hard for me to sit through. The over-acting was over-the-top and a lot of the stories were just way out there to me. The movies are in a different league to me. Loved those.)
Not currently on my ordered list:
VOY (I'm not listing this one simply because I haven't watched the entire series so I don't want to judge yet. I watched the first four seasons when it aired, but stopped watching regularly after that. I was frustrated with this show for a number of reasons. I think the biggest problem is I overhyped it in my head. I loved the ship design, Goldsmith's theme, the premise of the ship being away from home, the potential conflict between these two opposing groups that must live/work together. But the potential conflict was almost immediately washed away. And personally, Janeway's voice really annoyed me -- that's just a personal preference though, I understand if you disagree. So that was distracting. But I plan to watch the entire series again on Netflix and give it another shot.)
ENT (I've maybe seen 10 minutes of this series. I didn't like the show open, I didn't like the set design and I really didn't care for the actors when I tuned in originally. I'm giving the show another chance on Netflix now. I will resort my order after watching all of VOY and ENT!)
TAS (I've never seen this, but I probably will never watch it because I'm not into animated drama. Just a personal preference, not judging.)
I would say that perhaps DSN added some depth to the Star Trek Universe.
Whether you like or dislike a series, they all added depth to the Star Trek Universe.
Currently, I think it's TNG, followed rather closely by DS9.
A couple of years ago it was the other way around, maybe it'll swing back some day.
My explanation? While I'm capable of enjoying every incarnation of Trek to some extent, some shows just had a better ratio of good episodes vs. bad episodes than others. And VOY/ENT are just not as good in that respect as TNG/DS9. So, the reason is basically: better writing. TNG's writing was also a tad better than DS9's. On the other hand, DS9 had the more interesting (= better developed) characters. Hence it's such a tough call between the two.
Ah yes, and what about TOS? While I'm capable of enjoying TOS too, TV shows from the 60s are ultimately not really my kind of thing. It's not much more than that.
I'd also like to add that he final two seasons of ENT in particular remain a guilty pleasure of mine, despite their flaws and all.
yay i am so gald!!! the 4th season is my favorite,tell me what episode you liked the most until now?
Nice explaining i am also glad that you are very objective about the shows you did not entirely watch.
Janeways Voice used to annoy my dad was well he used to be a Star Trek fan (TOS his days) he hated Picard be cause he was totally the opposite of Kirk and hated Janeway :P because she was a female Kirk without the sense of humor.
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