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What is with IDW?

I've missed Trek comics these last couple months more than I expected I would

I presume the recent zombie crossover storyline will get collected.

I assume it will. Weird that I completely forgot about it when I was composing my last post. I was thinking about the "Khan" mini as the last Trek issues. I guess somehow it didn't satisfy that emotional desire for Trek comics for me.
 
I don't know alot about the comics industry, but I just came up with what I would think is a good sales plan. Make an e-comic only series that is $1 an isssue to own, $.50 an issue to view once. That would be the way that I would spend alot on comics. As it is I've never bought any of IDW Trek offerings. I have read half a dozen or so of the trade collections from the library or booksfree.com, so I suppose I've contributed to their sales in some minor way, but I just can't spend 15-20 bucks on a story that I will only ever read a few times and only takes an hour to read.

I recently bought the IDW Mirror Images series in e-book form from Amazon - it was very enjoyable IMHO.
 
I dunno. While I like what IDW has done so far for the most part, maybe they need to reevaluate their Star Trek line. Perhaps in addition to the occasional mini and one-shots, they can choose one point in TOS and continue forward from there as an ongoing series maybe. They were kind of doing that with "Year Four" but that seems to have fizzled out...
 
I dunno. While I like what IDW has done so far for the most part, maybe they need to reevaluate their Star Trek line. Perhaps in addition to the occasional mini and one-shots, they can choose one point in TOS and continue forward from there as an ongoing series maybe. They were kind of doing that with "Year Four" but that seems to have fizzled out...

I think it's a safe assumption that "Year Four" wasn't as successful as IDW hoped -- otherwise it would've continued beyond 2 miniseries.

Nobody can claim IDW didn't try and make Star Trek successful. They put out a TON of product over the last, what is it, 5 years? But no matter what they tried, sales kept declining month by month, year by year. It may simply be there's NO winning formula for Trek comics today.
 
I dunno. While I like what IDW has done so far for the most part, maybe they need to reevaluate their Star Trek line. Perhaps in addition to the occasional mini and one-shots, they can choose one point in TOS and continue forward from there as an ongoing series maybe. They were kind of doing that with "Year Four" but that seems to have fizzled out...

I think it's a safe assumption that "Year Four" wasn't as successful as IDW hoped -- otherwise it would've continued beyond 2 miniseries.

Nobody can claim IDW didn't try and make Star Trek successful. They put out a TON of product over the last, what is it, 5 years? But no matter what they tried, sales kept declining month by month, year by year. It may simply be there's NO winning formula for Trek comics today.
There's no denying IDW's efforts with Trek, but there's always going to be that part of me that remembers when DC had the license with a long-running monthly book during the '80s. It may have been that series was one of the few outlets for new Trek stories that took place between the movies at the time and was delivered on a regular basis every month...
 
I love IDW comics and infestation was great. want more star trek. But right reading
d&d and trueblood till star trek comes back. also G.I. Joe and transformesrs. now that transformers has IDW's first ongoing series when star trek comes back maybe they'll get one as well.
 
there's always going to be that part of me that remembers when DC had the license with a long-running monthly book during the '80s. It may have been that series was one of the few outlets for new Trek stories that took place between the movies at the time and was delivered on a regular basis every month...

And, of course, the TOS era was supported by an ongoing movie series (and DC Comics incorporated adaptations of ST III and IV into its ongoing saga) and the continuing comic for TNG was supported by the biggest-rating first-run syndicated TV drama of its day. Naturally the core of ST fans and comics fans sampling ST comics will be bigger.

As others have mentioned, IDW's biggest sellers have been their JJ movie tie-ins. If IDW can hold out until the next wave of free movie publicity comes their way, I guess there'll be more ST.

But yeah, I agree that it is very disappointing that IDW's TOS "Year 4" line didn't progress beyond two mini-series. It certainly seemed that the intention was to have a series of interrelated mini-series (with Arex and M'Ress appearing) to fill out the leaner years of the 5YM. Interviews with DC Fontana at the time made it sound like she had more stories in development, but obviously sales on the first two mini-series weren't strong enough.
 
but obviously sales on the first two mini-series weren't strong enough.
IDW had some editorial turnover around that time, as I recall. They made a big deal about "Second Stage" (an umbrella title for a whole bunch of projects), but then they vanished like vaporware. Losing editorial impetus can be a bigger blow to a line's momentum than low sales.
 
They made a big deal about "Second Stage" (an umbrella title for a whole bunch of projects), but then they vanished like vaporware. Losing editorial impetus can be a bigger blow to a line's momentum than low sales.

True. I recall when they had four ST mini-series running at once, they realised they had the potential to stagger the issues - and someone announced that one new ST issue would be released each week, but it rarely worked out. There'd be three weeks with nothing, then three different ST comics all on one day, then another wait of weeks.
 
I'd intended to suggest maybe trying a model akin to Dark Horse's Buffy comics, i.e. continuing one of the shows past their finales, but I remember the mention of TOS Year Four and how it apparently sparked minimal interest.

I think I would like to see IDW push out of the constraints of just doing "between the episodes and movies" stories. We know where the characters have been, show us where they're going next.

Of course, you run the risk of conflicting with the novels' continuity, but it isn't like they haven't largely ignored the novels with their comics already, KRAD's Jellico one-shot and the New Frontier mini notwithstanding.
 
well when ever a series has both comics and novels they rarelly coinced with each othere. star wars tries sometimes. as for star trek never.
 
as for star trek never.

"The Ashes of Eden" (DC Comics) by William Shatner and the Reeves-Stevenses.

"Double Blind" (DC Comics) by Diane Duane, using her cast from "The Wounded Sky" and the "Rihannsu" saga.

"n-Vector" (WildStorm) by KW Jeter, introducing the DS9 Relaunch, post-series finale, including Tiris Jast.

"Divided We Fall" (WildStorm crossover) by John Ordover and David Mack, with TNG cast interacting with the DS9 novel relaunch characters.

"Double Time" (WildStorm) and "Turnaround" (IDW) by Peter David, continued the "New Frontier" novel saga.
 
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well when ever a series has both comics and novels they rarelly coinced with each othere. star wars tries sometimes. as for star trek never.

From the "Charting the Novelverse" thread (Mini-Series, One-Offs, Anthologies, Comics and Miscellanea)...


  • DC Comics first TOS series used Diane Duane's "Rihannsu-verse" characters, and the character Bernie/Kobry appeared in TNG: Strike Zone.
  • DC Comics second TOS series introduced the character Sara Tuchinsky, who appeared in TOS: The Rift (as "Tooch") and in Mere Anarchy:The Blood-Dimmed Tide.
  • DC Comics TNG comics had one issue with Gilaad Ben Zoma of the Stargazer series.
  • Marvel Comics Early Voyages introduced the character Moves-With-Burning-Grace who later appeared SCE: Where Time Stands Still and TOS: Burning Dreams.
  • Marvel Comics DS9 series introduced Etaana Kol, a Bajoran security officer who has been used several times in the DS9 lit.
  • Marvel Comics Starfleet Academy introduced the character of Pava Ek'noor sh'Aqabaa, who later became a member of the crew of Titan. SA's Omega Squad was mentioned by name in DS9: Mission Gamma: Cathedral.
  • Wildstorm comics DS9: N-Vector and TNG/DS9: Divided We Fall both crossed directly into the DS9 fiction.
  • Wildstorm comics NF: Double Time is apart of the New Frontier continuity.
  • Wildstorm comics The Gorn Crisis by Kevin J. Anderson and Rebecca Moesta establishes backstory for both Nannietta Bacco (Articles of the Federation et al.) and the Gorn for Destiny and The Typhon Pact.
  • Wildstorm comics Perchance to Dream by Keith R.A DeCandido established the Damiano, seen in A Time for War, A Time for Peace and in New Frontier: No Limits.
  • Wildstorm comics Enter the Wolves by A.C. Crispen and Howard Weinstein was referenced in The Art of the Impossible.
  • IDW comics Andorian Spotlight alluded to the Andorian genders established the DS9 lit.
  • IDW comics NF: Turnaround is a part of the New Frontier continuity.
  • IDW comics TNG: Myriad Universes: Star Trek: The Last Generation was a tie in with the Myriad Universes series.
 
I swear I remember someone saying that they used the novels' term for smooth headed Klingons in one of the Klingons: Blood Will Tell issues.
 
I swear I remember someone saying that they used the novels' term for smooth headed Klingons in one of the Klingons: Blood Will Tell issues.

Actually both the novels and BWT got that term from Lawrence Schoen of the Klingon Language Institute, and I'm pretty sure BWT used it first.

However, characters from BWT did appear in "The Unhappy Ones" in Seven Deadly Sins.
 
QuchHa' was first used in Summon the Thunder, which was released in June 2006. Blood Will Tell #1 didn't come out until April 2007.
 
From the "Charting the Novelverse" thread (Mini-Series, One-Offs, Anthologies, Comics and Miscellanea)...


  • Marvel Comics DS9 series introduced Etaana Kol, a Bajoran security officer who has been used several times in the DS9 lit.

That should be "Etana Kol"
http://memory-beta.wikia.com/wiki/Etana_Kol
and also should include her girlfriend, Krissten Richter, also introduced in the DS9 series by us and used subsequently in the novels.
http://memory-beta.wikia.com/wiki/Krissten_Ricter

Also, this list should include Wildstorm's Star Trek Special story "A Rolling Stone Gathers No Nanoprobes" which features Darey Hawk, the brother of Sean Hawk (and mentioned first in Section 31: Rogue)
http://memory-beta.wikia.com/wiki/Darey_Hawk

And I know we did some other comic book references that aren't on this list.
 
^Thanks, Andy. And I actually just remembered another comics reference you threw in-- you used backstory for Marta Bantanides established in Starfleet Academy in Section 31: Abyss.
 
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