Just look at the math at the top of the thread.
What is the age of the Enterprise (NCC-1701)?
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But the mistake really isn't relevant to the story. The fact they are mothballing the Enterprise is.
Well I believe the material of FASA and Franz Joseph. I respect that you may not.
It may not be relevant to the story. But I care about these little minute details, even if others might not. I care about math and I think a Starfleet Admiral who obviously went to the Academy should know how to do basic arithmetic (addition).
Was it shown onscreen during TOS or the movies? no? didn't think so. Not interested in crayon scribbled nonsense from fans.
FASA and FJ don't count.
And I think it's perfectly realistic that characters would sometimes misspeak.
In DS9, Admiral Ross said the Eugenics wars was two hundred years prior, which doesn't fit correctly into Trek chronology.
The real reason is because the writers had a brain fart and just went off of Khan's "two hundred years ago" reference in TWOK without adding a whole 'nother century like they should have.
In-universe, we must assume that he just misspoke.
Kor
And I think it's perfectly realistic that characters would sometimes misspeak.
In DS9, Admiral Ross said the Eugenics wars was two hundred years prior, which doesn't fit correctly into Trek chronology.
The real reason is because the writers had a brain fart and just went off of Khan's "two hundred years ago" reference in TWOK without adding a whole 'nother century like they should have.
In-universe, we must assume that he just misspoke.
Kor
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It's not about "believing", it is about the rules of the universe that have been laid out by its owner. No writers of TV/movies are required to follow the merchandise and can contradict them if need be. So I tend to use the material that is on screen, for the most part.
I've had numerous copies of the Starfleet Technical Manual over the years. Great book.
Not sure it would've been wise.
Even so, it's not a matter of him getting it wrong, so much as everyone in the room acted as if what he said was perfectly true or so close to being so as not to bat an eye. She's "around" 20 years old and her own captain didn't say otherwise when it was pointed out.
The time between "The Cage" and "The Menagerie" was shown in the latter episode. Robert April was confirmed in The Animated Series (and I assume, as he commanded a Constitution ship, he had a five-year mission) and the time between TWoK and "Space Seed" was said in TWoK.
Regardless of the length of April's mission, you still have 28 years which is more than 20 (math still works in the 23rd century).
If you say you need on-screen evidence, the idea eventually stops working; there is no on-screen evidence math works the same way it does now between the 21st and 23rd centuries. But logically, it would. To me, logic trumps on-screen evidence.
And I never used any crayons when I posted from my computer to the BBS.
I agree.
The Animated Series is not canon. And lets not forget, it showed the "first ship with warp drive installed" as being bigger and more advanced than the Enterprise, with a much higher registry number so...
And he did not misspeak, as no one in the room corrected him or even showed any hint of emotion to show confusion that he had said something wrong. On the contrary, Kirk's expression is "Shit, well you have a point there."
And he did not misspeak, as no one in the room corrected him or even showed any hint of emotion to show confusion that he had said something wrong. On the contrary, Kirk's expression is "Shit, well you have a point there."
Maybe he wasn't a history buff or a Trek connoisseur who memorizes all these little details.
Kor
Bennett could've been working from notes from TMP about how the Enterprise there was a new ship.
Whether the animated series is canon is debatable. Actually, the Animated Series says that two starships are the "first" with warp drive. The first, the Enterprise (said by Sarah April). The second, the "old Bonaventure". And which registry is higher is debatable. A sign of an older ship is it having NCC before the number (10281NCC). The Enterprise might have a larger registry because of it having the NCC before the number (NCC-1701).
Bennett should have worked with material from TWok, TOS, and TAS.
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