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What if the Super Collider dont find the "God Particle"?

Lookingglassman

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What would be the effect if they finally get this thing to do what it is supposed to do and in the end the supposed "God Particle" never appears?
 
The point is to very the Higgs boson's existence (or lack thereof.) I imagine some theory would have to be reevaluated if said boson cannot be detected by the LHC. There are other alternatives to the Higgs boson, in any case, it would just be nice to confirm or deny this particular one.
 
If the LHC doesn't find the Higgs boson, it doesn't exist. The LHC has more than enough power to find it otherwise - a bigger particle accelerator would just wield the same result.
 
What if they do find the Higgs boson? What will that accomplish, other than the fact that they found a little particle? How significant is this?

Although I admit that it's fun to say. Higgs boson Higgs boson Higgs boson Higgs boson. :lol:
 
I totally forgot about the existance of the Large Hard-on Collider after it failed to live up to the hype and didn't destroy the planet when it got turned on.
 
If they find it, it tells us something about the physics of the universe. If they don't find it, it tells us something about the physics of the universe. This is how science works... prediction, experiment, result.
 
What will be funny if God Himself showed up in the collider.

I know you're joking, but that doesn't make much sense considering that if the Higgs boson exists, it's actually all over the place all the time. LHC isn't making anything new, they're just trying to look for something that's already there. It's actually sort of annoying that the media has seized on calling it the "god particle" because that's rather a misrepresentation.
 
From what I've heard from physicists, if they don't find the HB particle, it may partially unravel some of their current theories. On the bright side, they should find evidence of something else they can work with. In either case it's a step forward which is what science is all about.
 
What will be funny if God Himself showed up in the collider.

I know you're joking, but that doesn't make much sense considering that if the Higgs boson exists, it's actually all over the place all the time. LHC isn't making anything new, they're just trying to look for something that's already there. It's actually sort of annoying that the media has seized on calling it the "god particle" because that's rather a misrepresentation.


I'm *shocked* and *appalled* that the media misrepresented something :lol:
 
What will be funny if God Himself showed up in the collider.

I know you're joking, but that doesn't make much sense considering that if the Higgs boson exists, it's actually all over the place all the time. LHC isn't making anything new, they're just trying to look for something that's already there. It's actually sort of annoying that the media has seized on calling it the "god particle" because that's rather a misrepresentation.


I'm *shocked* and *appalled* that the media misrepresented something :lol:

While it's often said that the media jumped on the term, and that's true, it didn't originate in a vacuum. A quick online search will produce all kinds of physicists calling it that too, including ones currently working with the LHC, and it was physicist Leon Lederman who came up with the term in the first place. Outlets from COSMOS to American Journal of Physics and National Geographic, et al. have routinely used the term. It's not just another case of the mainstream, non-scientific media abusing a concept they don't understand, it's use is widespread.

They called it that because its discovery could unify understanding of particle physics and help humans "know the mind of God." It's use is merely poetic, even if it makes some people uncomfortable.
 
I know you're joking, but that doesn't make much sense considering that if the Higgs boson exists, it's actually all over the place all the time. LHC isn't making anything new, they're just trying to look for something that's already there. It's actually sort of annoying that the media has seized on calling it the "god particle" because that's rather a misrepresentation.


I'm *shocked* and *appalled* that the media misrepresented something :lol:

While it's often said that the media jumped on the term, and that's true, it didn't originate in a vacuum. A quick online search will produce all kinds of physicists calling it that too, including ones currently working with the LHC, and it was physicist Leon Lederman who came up with the term in the first place. Outlets from COSMOS to American Journal of Physics and National Geographic, et al. have routinely used the term. It's not just another case of the mainstream, non-scientific media abusing a concept they don't understand, it's use is widespread.

They called it that because its discovery could unify understanding of particle physics and help humans "know the mind of God." It's use is merely poetic, even if it makes some people uncomfortable.


But the media quickly blows "god particle" completely out of context.
 
But the media quickly blows "god particle" completely out of context.

Yeah, because the media and the general public tend not to realize that scientists have a sense of whimsy. So something that's meant as an inside joke can be taken far too seriously.
 
I would think that not finding the "God Particle" would be just as exciting, if not more so, to some scientists as finding it would be. How boring would the universe be if all of our predictions and theories were true? Surprises, twists and turns are part of the fun.
 
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