It's called a war crime.
What if the Enterprise were thrown into the Delta Quadrant?
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If its the Borg I take that war crime any day
Actually, I would have liked to have seen 1 episode where Picard, Riker, Geordie and Worf exchanged places with Janeway, Chakotay, Torres, and Tuvak. Maybe a Q thing where he switched crews and in this case, unlike that trial where Riker wasn't going to remember being there...they would remember. Maybe place it AFTER the Pathfinder episode.
I'm curious how 'live fast and prosper' would have turned out, with con men trying to out-Picard Picard, to out-data Data and out-Riker Riker ...
Perhaps something like 'Devil's due' but with a lot more humor ?
Perhaps something like 'Devil's due' but with a lot more humor ?
How would they have gotten there? The Barzan Wormhole? Either the D or the E would have been in the Badlands. See Gul Evek
QUOTE="JJohnson, post: 3689756, member: 6251"]I'm currently writing a fanfic on how the Enterprise would handle being in the Delta Quadrant, replacing Voyager seasons 4-7.
Given the situation, alone in the Delta Quadrant, Borg all around and 8472 as well, how do you think Picard and crew would've handled things?
The only thing I really want to keep is rescuing Annika Hansen, but other than that, everything else is up for grabs.
I'm so far going with the thought that Picard would be against any alliance with the Borg, Riker would likely favor it for practical reasons, but still recognize they cannot be trusted.
Picard may attempt to bargain with the Borg to send them to the Alpha Quadrant in exchange for weaponized nanites, but Troi and Crusher would counsel him against it as genocide, which, given First Contact, Picard might go with, given his conversation with Lilly.
How do you think they'd resolve the Scorpion issue with 8472?
And thereafter?
Thanks in advance for the ideas.[/QUOTE]
QUOTE="JJohnson, post: 3689756, member: 6251"]I'm currently writing a fanfic on how the Enterprise would handle being in the Delta Quadrant, replacing Voyager seasons 4-7.
Given the situation, alone in the Delta Quadrant, Borg all around and 8472 as well, how do you think Picard and crew would've handled things?
The only thing I really want to keep is rescuing Annika Hansen, but other than that, everything else is up for grabs.
I'm so far going with the thought that Picard would be against any alliance with the Borg, Riker would likely favor it for practical reasons, but still recognize they cannot be trusted.
Picard may attempt to bargain with the Borg to send them to the Alpha Quadrant in exchange for weaponized nanites, but Troi and Crusher would counsel him against it as genocide, which, given First Contact, Picard might go with, given his conversation with Lilly.
How do you think they'd resolve the Scorpion issue with 8472?
And thereafter?
Thanks in advance for the ideas.[/QUOTE]
Nah: he'll be disillusioned because the Enterprise holodecks aren't on a separate power system so he can't play Dixon Hill any more.
Is Guinan on the ship?
We don't quite know where that one is located, though. Placing it somewhere in Delta would be fine, I guess, but it might just as well lie in Gamma or Beta or Alpha, in the latter two cases either right next to Earth or then somewhere close to the galactic core and thus Delta.
What would be left of that planet, I wonder...?
Timo Saloniemi
What would be left of that planet, I wonder...?
Timo Saloniemi
If the Enterprise would have been thrown into the Delta quadrant it would not have taken 7 years to get back. Picard would have had the Caretaker array destroyed by a timebomb or remotely after it would have returned Enterprise to the Alpha quadrant.
I imagine Picard would have struck closer to the Prime Directive, adamant about not interfering (maybe some whole other way of not being able to get back) but on the other hand he would have been more influenced by Worf, willing to do some aggressive defense given their vulnerability.
With the Borg specifically he would have taken a lot more convincing to try to do an alliance, he could have actually sided with Species 8472 at least initially, they being written less as outright purging the galaxy even if they were also dangerous/hostile to a lesser degree (and the reveal something like 8472 initiated hostilities or were developing too-dangerous weapons or maybe were related to the species that created the Borg), Seven could have still joined, Picard would have been more suspicious of her initially but willing to accept her, maybe Worf initially seeing her and turning her as valuable and Troi also pushing to help her more out of sympathy.
With the Borg specifically he would have taken a lot more convincing to try to do an alliance, he could have actually sided with Species 8472 at least initially, they being written less as outright purging the galaxy even if they were also dangerous/hostile to a lesser degree (and the reveal something like 8472 initiated hostilities or were developing too-dangerous weapons or maybe were related to the species that created the Borg), Seven could have still joined, Picard would have been more suspicious of her initially but willing to accept her, maybe Worf initially seeing her and turning her as valuable and Troi also pushing to help her more out of sympathy.
Riker would not put up with any Maquis BS in the first episode they would be assigned to much more menial tasks.
Geordi and Data would invent a way home in the first episode.
Picard would not be so desparate to get home, he rarely leaves the ship even when docked at earth.
Instead of becoming a member of the crew Seven would have been Tommy gunned by Picard on the holodeck
The universe would implode when Wesley meets Tom Paris and he's not Locarno, they break the fourth wall and realize they are in a TV show
Geordi and Data would invent a way home in the first episode.
Picard would not be so desparate to get home, he rarely leaves the ship even when docked at earth.
Instead of becoming a member of the crew Seven would have been Tommy gunned by Picard on the holodeck
The universe would implode when Wesley meets Tom Paris and he's not Locarno, they break the fourth wall and realize they are in a TV show
Picard would never have made a deal with the Borg. But maybe he would have figured out the Borg attacked first and found a way to convince 8472 that the Borg were their only enemy.
Picard would have known that the Borg started it. Unlike Janeway he can hear the Collective
Picard would've started a new mini-Federation, bringing together many of the species and bestowing on them the benefits of working towards the common goal of peace and prosperity. This new branch of the UFP would also provide them with resources and supplies to help them along the way.
Riker would've caught some exotic space herpes from trying to get his leg over with a beautiful female from every new species they met.
Crusher would never have the EMH switched on. The programme would be deleted to make room in the computer core memory for all the new discoveries they make on the journey home.
Data would save their asses on a regular basis. He would also be the one to bond with Seven, helping her to understand humanity from his unique perspective.
Troi would've had her hands full dealing with the emotional and mental fallout of being so far from home. She would also be the one to properly treat the trauma that Seven endured at the hands of the Borg, allowing her to regain her humanity a lot quicker.
Yar would be whooping butt and taking names.
La Forge would still be made Chief Engineer after all the previous Chief's were killed in transit. He still wouldn't have much luck with the ladies.
Worf would become the new helmsman and would never know of the dishonour brought on his family by Duras. He also wouldn't be in the running for the worst father in the galaxy. K'Ehleyr would still be alive.
Wesley would be vying with Data for who saves the ship more. He'd start being trained onboard the ship, since he can't get to the Academy.
Neelix would become one of Guinan's waiters in Ten Forward, when he isn't pestering Picard with his insights.
Kes would've started interning in sickbay, quickly being trained up to become a fully fledged member of the medical staff.
Seven would've been rescued and receive proper treatment, seeing her reclaiming her human identity and name.
Riker would've caught some exotic space herpes from trying to get his leg over with a beautiful female from every new species they met.
Crusher would never have the EMH switched on. The programme would be deleted to make room in the computer core memory for all the new discoveries they make on the journey home.
Data would save their asses on a regular basis. He would also be the one to bond with Seven, helping her to understand humanity from his unique perspective.
Troi would've had her hands full dealing with the emotional and mental fallout of being so far from home. She would also be the one to properly treat the trauma that Seven endured at the hands of the Borg, allowing her to regain her humanity a lot quicker.
Yar would be whooping butt and taking names.
La Forge would still be made Chief Engineer after all the previous Chief's were killed in transit. He still wouldn't have much luck with the ladies.
Worf would become the new helmsman and would never know of the dishonour brought on his family by Duras. He also wouldn't be in the running for the worst father in the galaxy. K'Ehleyr would still be alive.
Wesley would be vying with Data for who saves the ship more. He'd start being trained onboard the ship, since he can't get to the Academy.
Neelix would become one of Guinan's waiters in Ten Forward, when he isn't pestering Picard with his insights.
Kes would've started interning in sickbay, quickly being trained up to become a fully fledged member of the medical staff.
Seven would've been rescued and receive proper treatment, seeing her reclaiming her human identity and name.
Well, I, for one, can't see Picard say There's Earl Grey in that nebula!
Somehow I think Picard would have been less flexible about bending the rules a little to fit the current predicament than Janeway was, and would have insisted on thorough background checks on the local aliens before he admitted them to his little Federation or even before starting trade with them. Or would necessity change Picard?
Come to think of it, it's amazing it happened on Voyager as rarely as it did, certainly with a male like Tom Paris. Before he had Torres, at least.
Probably neither would the original Voyager doctor have done so, but he died during the DQ kidnap. Small difference in premise.
These two sound highly likely to me.
He probably would become known as "the Angry Klingon" in the DQ, saying "klingons do NOT <x>" very other episode. As he was developed in TNG mainly by exploring his background, and probably not too much of that would be happening in the DQ, we would be stuck with a S1 or a S2 Worf.
One thing I am genuinely curious about is how Picard would have dealt with the halved Starfleet crew and the rogue Maquis crew under his command, that he had to weld into one crew. We know Picard is a highly skilled diplomat, but we don't see him that often as a strong "internal" leader resolving conflicts between the crew, -- it was rarely or never needed, probably because his ent-D crew was presumably already the finest of the finest before gaining admittance to the ent-D.
Somehow I think Picard would have been less flexible about bending the rules a little to fit the current predicament than Janeway was, and would have insisted on thorough background checks on the local aliens before he admitted them to his little Federation or even before starting trade with them. Or would necessity change Picard?
Come to think of it, it's amazing it happened on Voyager as rarely as it did, certainly with a male like Tom Paris. Before he had Torres, at least.
Probably neither would the original Voyager doctor have done so, but he died during the DQ kidnap. Small difference in premise.
These two sound highly likely to me.
He probably would become known as "the Angry Klingon" in the DQ, saying "klingons do NOT <x>" very other episode. As he was developed in TNG mainly by exploring his background, and probably not too much of that would be happening in the DQ, we would be stuck with a S1 or a S2 Worf.
One thing I am genuinely curious about is how Picard would have dealt with the halved Starfleet crew and the rogue Maquis crew under his command, that he had to weld into one crew. We know Picard is a highly skilled diplomat, but we don't see him that often as a strong "internal" leader resolving conflicts between the crew, -- it was rarely or never needed, probably because his ent-D crew was presumably already the finest of the finest before gaining admittance to the ent-D.
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507 Maquis seems like a stretch.
Assuming that's based on the 1014 crew complement number that pops up every now and then in discussions about the ent-D, I don't think in Voyager the Maquis were actually supposed to be 50% of the crew, but more like 30%.
But even then, 300+ Maquis crew members still seem like a stretch.
It may be lower still, if we assume not all 1014 were actual crew (but families, too).
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