What if the Dominion became in Voyager as well?

[ReadyAndWilling]

anyone else think this could have made the show more interesting? imagine if voyager came to the edge of Dominion Space in the Gamma Quadrant. somehow, the ship could eventually become involved in the Dominion War. i'm not saying Voyager should completely abandon their premise of exploring the DQ and leaving that potential unfulfilled, but it would have been marvelous to see those DQ races like the borg, hirogen etc tangling with the GQ armies of the Jem'Hadar and the Breen.

they could begin the linkage at season 6 when the war was really heating up and have both shows run together and do crossovers etc.

 

[Jono]

I think the Dominion War was in VOYs season 4 and 5. Oh, and the Breen aren't from the GQ.

 

[ReadyAndWilling]

where are the breen from?

 

[Jono]

^ The Breen are from...Breen. They were first mentioned in TNG prior to DS9 coming on air so that makes their homeworld somewhere in the Alpha or Beta Quadrants. Most non-canon source's I've read put them in the Alpha Quadrant not too far from the Cardassian Union.

 

[JarodRussell]

I was always wondering throughout the show why they didn't take the route to the Gamma quadrant to the Bajoran wormhole.

 

[MikeS]

I was always wondering throughout the show why they didn't take the route to the Gamma quadrant to the Bajoran wormhole.

Me too. Not only is it faster, they would have avoided the Borg (They were not aware of the Dominion threat at the time).

Another reason that Janeway sits bottom in my ranking of Captain's.

 

[Jono]

I was always wondering throughout the show why they didn't take the route to the Gamma quadrant to the Bajoran wormhole.

Me too. Not only is it faster, they would have avoided the Borg (They were not aware of the Dominion threat at the time).

Another reason that Janeway sits bottom in my ranking of Captain's.

The stardate of "Caretaker" places the episode around the same time as DS9's third season episode "The Abandoned", well after the Dominion spanked the USS Odyssey. So they would/should have known about the Dominion and at least partly how serious a threat it was.

They would also know that the wormhole is unreliable. It operates at the Prophet's whim as they showed in "Emissary" and due to the Dominion threat there would be a chance that Starfleet might attempt to close the wormhole of their own accord (which they did try). That all makes going for the wormhole not a terribly fantastic idea either, even if they could avoid the Dominion in the decades it might take to get to the wormhole they could find it was gone and still have 60 - 70 years left to travel.

 

[JarodRussell]

Hm, well... Dominion and a much shorter trip on the one side... Borg and a much longer trip on the other side...

 

[Guy Gardener]

Braga has been heard screaming at conventions "Equidistant! it's fucking equidistant!" because he believes that it is not closer when the distances by thumb we have been given suggest that that it would have to be MUCH shorter because I know how to draw an equilateral triangle over a map of the galaxy and have done many times.

The Doctor while pretending to be Janeway in Renaissance man actually used the words ""The edge (could have been "boarder"?) of the beta quadrant" while describing/inventing the boogie man big bads he had to conjure to facilitate some freaking Malon impersonating pakled tactics.

but here's the fact you can't argue with. Even if it only took them 20 years to get to the wormhole. It might not still be there when they get to where they think it should be even though it's been stable for ten thousand years apparantly, which considering the destruction of the Odyssey before they were lost and that that Jem'Hadar fighters were used during kes' driving test then even Janeway would have known that bad guys were waiting for her if she went in that direction who were at least 9000 percent less scary than the Borg who she was wittingly steaming towards from day one with complete compunction.

 

[Jono]

^ How sure was Starfleet about where the Borg were based before Voyager ran into them? If all they knew was that the Borg were mainly based somewhere in the DQ then Janeway would have been faced with the prospect that no matter what direction she chose to travel in she had roughly the same odds of having to go through or near Borg space.

 

[Guy Gardener]

They knew where Eluria was, and whatever else they extracted from Guinian's people.

I'm sure there was a line in there some where in the third season like "We knew this was coming".

 

[Anwar]

Was El-Auria in the Delta Quadrant? I figured it was somewhere in the distant Alpha Quadrant.

Anyways, the Wormhole really wasn't that much closer than Fed space was from VOY's starting position. And they had no way of knowing it would still be there in the time it would take to get there.

And if it wasn't, then they'd just be trapped in Dominion space.

 

[JarodRussell]

Well, trapped in Dominion space on the one hand, trapped in Borg space on the other hand...

 

[Anwar]

Death is death. At least heading for the Alpha Quadrant would mean they'd only face one death instead of leaving one behind for another one in front of them.

 

[Jono]

Was El-Auria in the Delta Quadrant? I figured it was somewhere in the distant Alpha Quadrant.

We don't know where the El-Aurian system is. It could be in the Alpha, Beta or Delta Quadrants.

The Borg don't just hit close worlds, as we saw with their forays in the region in and around the Federation the Borg are willing to attempt to assimilate planets 1000s of light years away from their domain. So knowing where the El-Aurian system might not be helpful at all.

 

[Guy Gardener]

The events of Q who only happened 7 thousand light years from home, 2 and half years travel.

In first contact bev said

CRUSHER: But in the twenty-first century the Borg are still in the Delta Quadrant.
PICARD: They'll send reinforcements. Humanity will be an easy target

Meanwhile the events of decent were only 65 light years away from home.

You, think you know things. Bah!

 

[T'Girl]

^ How sure was Starfleet about where the Borg were based before Voyager ran into them? If all they knew was that the Borg were mainly based somewhere in the DQ then Janeway would have been faced with the prospect that no matter what direction she chose to travel in she had roughly the same odds of having to go through or near Borg space.

Starfleet likely still isn't sure where the ALL of the Borg are. A direct path from the Caretakers array to the GQ mouth of the wormhole might have meant traveling through even more Borg territory than Voyager actually did. For all Janeway knew, the section of Borg space she passed through might have been a small outlaying branch of Borg space.

 

[Ensign Johnson]

I wouldn't have wanted Voyager to go through the gamma quadrant to get home, but I wouldn't have minded if we saw some of the dominion in the delta quadrant. If they want to take over the alpha quadrant it could make sense that they also want to branch out into the delta quadrant. Some DS9/VOY crossover episodes would have been interesting, I liked seeing Tuvok in the MU and I would have liked to see more Voyager crew members there. Not sure I'd have been fussed on Voyager joining in with the war though, I liked Voyager campy and fun.

 

[JarodRussell]

I wouldn't have wanted Voyager to go through the gamma quadrant to get home, but I wouldn't have minded if we saw some of the dominion in the delta quadrant. If they want to take over the alpha quadrant it could make sense that they also want to branch out into the delta quadrant.

The only problem is that this makes no sense at all because alpha and gamma quadrant are opposite to each other and the delta quadrant lies between them. They'd need to cross hundredthousand light years to get to the alpha quadrant that way.

 

[Vurok]

You guys raise some good points, a potential short-cut home should at least have been discussed on-screen, even if it wasn't the best option.