Oh yes, you're right! So the gooey-changy thing is hardwired, not the face.
What if the Borg had attacked DS9?
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Oh yes, you're right! So the gooey-changy thing is hardwired, not the face.
Unless DS9 managed to destroy the vessel (let's assume at least something on the scale of a sphere or cube) almost instantaneously, it's not even going to be a contest unless DS9 has been equipped with additional weapons. In WotW they didn't even have quantum torpedoes, and regular phasers and photorps don't impress the Borg after the first minute or less.
It would likely be a very short battle, especially since DS9 can't exactly do evasive maneuvers.
One thing FC did right was having the Federation ships never staying in one place. Because the moment the Borg get a tractor lock on your ship, you're probably screwed, especially if they decide to go all cutting beam (and I do wish we'd seen more of that in FC).
Assuming the Borg wanted DS9 out of the way, I see them warping in, getting a tractor lock (which should be quite easy on a stationary target), draining DS9's shields, then cutting the fusion reactors right off the station. Game over in five minutes or less.
The first 3 words we ever hear Morn say would be, "Resistance is futile."
Seems like a "get of jail free card" is the thing which sticks on to Sisko's character, but that's the war season Sisko. I would like to think the pre-war Sisko, the one who had hair on his head, would've strategically made the Borg leave the system. Working along with the Cardassians to use resources to solve the situation; I'm sure some investigation would come with the territory, but I would like see more a resolve from Ben of the death of Jennifer. I know this was resolved in Emissary, but is it possible Jake was too young to fully understand the impact the Borg had done and would this situation be Jake's own personal resolve of the death of his mother?
regarding the founders, didn't Odo say that if you scan him while hes a rock, you will only see a rock ? I would think if they were at risk of assimilation they could just turn into a rock; I think we saw someone turn into fire and fog too. either of those would be a challenge to assimilate
Indeed. Apparently, either the "changelingness" of these folks goes into some other realm, where the nanoprobes can't get at it, for the duration of the rock imitation - or then the rock imitation is only skin deep but nevertheless utterly impenetrable, again stopping the nanoprobes.
In the latter case, though, the Borg could just split these rocks or whatever open and go for the juicy middle. Although it's a bit difficult to imagine how fog or flame could have a juicy middle...
Timo Saloniemi
In the latter case, though, the Borg could just split these rocks or whatever open and go for the juicy middle. Although it's a bit difficult to imagine how fog or flame could have a juicy middle...
Timo Saloniemi
It would have been a sticky task.
Lol.
The thing is, the genocide plan wouldn't have worked anyway. As we see, Hugh's individuality never affected any Borg beyond the ship that rescued him.
Apparently Borg ships have ways to cut themselves off from the wider Collective, precisely to stop the kind of invasive 'virus' the Enterprise crew developed.
If the Borg managed to assimilate a Weyoun or a Founder, the Dominion would have no choice but to team up with the Federation/Romulian/Klingon alliance.
I imagine Sisko would be forced to evacuate Deep Space Nine and it would no longer be a series set on a space station.
I imagine Sisko would be forced to evacuate Deep Space Nine and it would no longer be a series set on a space station.
The Borg can assimilate Weyoun but, again, I don't see how they can assimilate a Founder.
Can they assimilate on the microscopic level? Getting Weyoun or any of the other founder servants would still be disastrous for them
The Borg nanoprobes seem to assimilate on the microscopic level.
The Dominion would have had a better chance of resisting Borg incursions than any other (normal) nation we ever saw on Trek (including the Federation). But the only reason anyone is ever actually able to resist the Borg is because they don't actually invade anyone most of the time, they just poke now and then with a cube or 2 cubes at the most. A full scale borg invasion fleet would leave the entire Gamma (or Alpha/Beta) quadrant glassed with no effort at all.
Then again, Janeway managed to deal them quite a blow. Supposedly the Borg are unstoppable exactly because they don't push the issue: if they did go for full-scale invasions, they'd meet more resistance, from bigger anti-Borg alliances, and they might well be toast.
But letting thy neighbor get assimilated is less painful than facing the Borg, so...
I guess the idea was that their curiosity would get the better of them, and the visual challenge would get passed on to high levels of the Collective before it was recognized as malware.
Whether it worked or not... Well, apparently Hugh will tell, in the upcoming Picard show. Perhaps the individuality virus is what gave birth to the Queen?
Timo Saloniemi
But letting thy neighbor get assimilated is less painful than facing the Borg, so...
The Borg have firewall technology? Who woulda thunk it?
I guess the idea was that their curiosity would get the better of them, and the visual challenge would get passed on to high levels of the Collective before it was recognized as malware.
Whether it worked or not... Well, apparently Hugh will tell, in the upcoming Picard show. Perhaps the individuality virus is what gave birth to the Queen?
Timo Saloniemi
In Best of Both Worlds, one cube wiped out the Federation fleet, and, if the Admiral was to be believed, some Klingon ships as well. So a massive fleet of many cubes would have destroyed the Federation and, probably the Klingon Empire. But could that also have destroyed these two and the Romulan Empire? I'd say yes, because that makes sense.
Then there could be the issue of these three plus the Breen plus the Cardassians. I'd still say the Borg could win, because one cube can take out the Federation (almost), then hundreds of them can take out the entire quadrant.
Then there could be the issue of these three plus the Breen plus the Cardassians. I'd still say the Borg could win, because one cube can take out the Federation (almost), then hundreds of them can take out the entire quadrant.
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