Sisko kissing Kirk would have been best
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Sisko kissing Kirk would have been best
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"DUET": substitute Kira with Worf on TNG, and Marritza with a Romulan who actually killed his parents. Only he is trying to do a similar thing as Marritza in trying to get the Romulan government to force a galactic apology over some horrific act they did, except it turns out to be just a Romulan filing clerk.
I really wonder if Worf would be fair enough to dig deep enough to discover he wasn't really the Romulan responsible for his parents murder. Part of me says yes because it would be dishonorable to not do the job right, but another part of me, given this is TNG Worf, would just let him die, like he did with that Romulan in "The Enemy", or just kill him himself.
"DUET": substitute Kira with Worf on TNG, and Marritza with a Romulan who actually killed his parents. Only he is trying to do a similar thing as Marritza in trying to get the Romulan government to force a galactic apology over some horrific act they did, except it turns out to be just a Romulan filing clerk.
I really wonder if Worf would be fair enough to dig deep enough to discover he wasn't really the Romulan responsible for his parents murder. Part of me says yes because it would be dishonorable to not do the job right, but another part of me, given this is TNG Worf, would just let him die, like he did with that Romulan in "The Enemy", or just kill him himself.
I think Picard would have made an absolute clusterfuck of the post on DS9, and that's obvious as early as Emissary. Picard wouldn't have made that deal with Quark, wouldn't have understood the need to compromise to build this diverse community, and he would have been a right arse about the Bajoran faith, making no friends. He would never have compromised his pompous sense of self righteousness for a second, and I say that as someone who looks up to Picard as a bit of a role model in many things - but DS9 needed a person with the flexibility to adapt, to see ideals as a goal rather than a rigid way of life. Kirk, Janeway, even Archer would probably have managed it. I suspect Lorca would too, from what little we know so far. But Picard would have crashed and burned.Picard on DS9:
Would probably pontificate "The previous post at which I served as Captain was the Enterprise. Compared to that, this is an overworked, underpowered station, always on the verge of flying apart at the seams. In every measurable sense, my Enterprise was far superior. Indeed, there are times when I would give almost anything to command the Enterprise again."
Picard and Dukat interacting would have been kind of funny though. Both somewhat self-righteous and pompous characters but with a very different value system, they would probably annoy the hell out of each other
^I could hear the Prophets now ...
The Picard is too linear... we should return this one.
The Picard is too linear... we should return this one.
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I used a list randomizer for the following series:
ENT, DIS, TOS, TAS, TNG, DS9, VOY
And after a few tries (to prevent series winding up in the same spot), I got this:
VOY, ENT, DIS, TNG, DS9, TOS, TAS
So, here's my try:
Voyager (2151):
Captain Kathryn Janeway, the daughter of deceased Starfleet founder Edward Janeway, is given command of the NX class Voyager, which she launches early over protests following the Klingon first contact. Although a science vessel, she pushes it more towards exploration. Her first mission runs afoul of the Suliban, and Voyager is nearly destroyed, pieced together with a marauder ship captained by the rogue Chakotay. They manage to fix their ship, somehow, in the course of four days and wind up in Klingon space, where they deliver a wounded Klingon and go on their way. Janeway recruits the marauders into her ship, to fill vacancies in her ship, over objections from Starfleet, and continue on their journey into the unknown. Other crew include Tom Paris, a disgraced former cadet recruited by Janeway for the mission, B'Elanna Torres, an alien engineer with mysterious ties to the Temporal Cold War, and Doctor Zimmerman, a civilian medical doctor who experiments with holography, and the Vulcan nurse T'Kes with her Denobulan smuggler boyfriend Neelix. In the second season, a Vulcan named T'Menos (played by Jeri Ryan) is assigned to the ship in place of T'Kes (who is taken by mysterious time traveller Crewman Braxton into the future), to the annoyance of some fans.
Star Trek: Enterprise (2256):
Commander T'Pol is a valued member of Starfleet, raised in a human family after the death of her Vulcan one in a Klingon attack many years prior. She is assigned to the USS Columbia under Captain Hernandez for seven years, and following an attempted mutiny and martyring the Suliban religious figure Silik (which leads to a long protracted war with the Suliban), she is drummed out of the service and imprisoned for life. She is then recruited by the mysterious Captain Jonathan Archer, of the USS Enterprise (NX-1301), to investigate a special spore drive invented by Denobulan new age scientist Dr. Phlox. They manage to rescue the colony on Paragaan II using the spore drive to surprise the Suliban. The spore drive is navigated by a giant monstrous figure nicknamed "Tripper" by the now-deceased security chief Reed.
Star Trek: Discovery (2266):
Captain Lorca, Commander Burnham, and Mr. Saru, of the USS Discovery (NCC-1731) travel the stars week after week, going where no man has gone before. They encounter strange new creatures (like the salt-eating tardigrade in "The Man Trap"), new life and new civilizations (the Preservers of Amerind). They also encounter colorful rogue Harry Mudd (played by Stanley C. Carmel) on two seperate occassions. The Klingon Kol is an enemy in one memorable episode of the first season. Other colorful members of the supporting cast include Doctor Culber, Engineer Stamets, and Lieutenant Tyler. The first pilot, featuring Captain Georgiou, was not picked up by NBC and had to be drastically rewritten to be less cerebral. Most of the cast (minus Saru and Burnham) were dropped, and a new Captain developed. In the second pilot, Captain Lorca loses his best friend Al Landry due to an encounter around a rare "Binary Star".
Star Trek: The Next Animation (2269):
The animated adventures of Captain Picard and crew. Join the USS Enterprise as it travels to distant lands (the Deneb Triangle), encounters a being claiming to be a god (Q), and the outrageous rogue Okona. The dialogue can be a little stilted, and its hard to understand the weird accent used by Counselor Troi (Majel Barrett). The pink coloring on Lieutenant Worf was due to the directors color-blindness.
Star Trek: The Deep Generation (2364):
Returning to television after many successful movies (including most famously Star Trek II: The Wrath of Voq), Gene Roddenberry's utopian vision of the future included the bald Captain Sisko of the USS Defiant, a former commander of the Saratoga (lost in battle), who commands a ship including kick-ass Commander Kira, raised on a world controlled by roving gangs, the shapeshifter Odo who wants to become human, and the lothario Lieutenant Dax. Sisko punches a godlike being in the first episode, and later is sent into the Gamma Quadrant (briefly) where he meets the mysterious Dominion. This becomes a plot point later on in a couple episodes, and the movie Star Trek: Past Tense. Captain Sisko also has a flirtation with Doctor Claire Finn, and the alien Nog (nephew of the Two Forward lounge host, Quark) is derided by fans as too much of a wunderkind. He's shipped off to Starfleet Academy and only comes back in the seventh season. The series is followed by four movies, although the last one (featuring Sisko fighting a Cardassian head of state Dukat in some sort of weird action movie scene) was not well-received.
Star Trek: Deep Space K-7 (2369):
James Kirk is a man recovering from the death of his crew on the Farragut, when he's assigned to Deep Space K-7 near Sherman's Planet, a planet recently freed from Klingon control in a treaty. Working alongside his alien liaison, Mr. Spock, his British engineer Montgomery Scott, and his best friend, "old man" Leonard McCoy, he quickly finds himself exalted to godlike status amongst the colonists of Sherman's Planet. Eventually, the Romulan Star Empire enters into a state of cold war, and then real war, with the Federation following Kirk and Spock's espionage in one story arc to steal a cloaking device (which they use on their ship, the Enterprise). In a seven-episode arc in the final season, Kirk and crew manage to end the war with the Romulans and also save Sherman's Planet from a Klingon invasion (the Klingons having entered into an alliance with the Romulans), with Kirk seeming to die in a fight with his Klingon nemesis Kor (the man who shot and killed Uhura after Nichelle Nichols left the show).
Star Trek: Enterpriser (2371):
Ignore that last one. Anyway, Captain Kirk is assigned to the Enterprise as they investigate a group of Orion pirates, when they are sent out into the far off reaches of the Delta Triangle. There, an alien being known as Kukulkan has abducted many races, before he was too die. Kirk, to protect it from the Orion pirates, destroys Kukulkan's ship and only means to escape the Triangle, and begins the long journey back home. Many of his crew (including Chekov) did not survive the trip to the Triangle, but they are joined by the alien smuggler Arex, and his girlfriend M'Ress, who promptly accept positions onboard the Enterprise. When the ratings start to dip, the producers bring back Klingons over and over again. The most popular episode is the one where the Vulcan crewmember time travels to an earlier time in his life.
ENT, DIS, TOS, TAS, TNG, DS9, VOY
And after a few tries (to prevent series winding up in the same spot), I got this:
VOY, ENT, DIS, TNG, DS9, TOS, TAS
So, here's my try:
Voyager (2151):
Captain Kathryn Janeway, the daughter of deceased Starfleet founder Edward Janeway, is given command of the NX class Voyager, which she launches early over protests following the Klingon first contact. Although a science vessel, she pushes it more towards exploration. Her first mission runs afoul of the Suliban, and Voyager is nearly destroyed, pieced together with a marauder ship captained by the rogue Chakotay. They manage to fix their ship, somehow, in the course of four days and wind up in Klingon space, where they deliver a wounded Klingon and go on their way. Janeway recruits the marauders into her ship, to fill vacancies in her ship, over objections from Starfleet, and continue on their journey into the unknown. Other crew include Tom Paris, a disgraced former cadet recruited by Janeway for the mission, B'Elanna Torres, an alien engineer with mysterious ties to the Temporal Cold War, and Doctor Zimmerman, a civilian medical doctor who experiments with holography, and the Vulcan nurse T'Kes with her Denobulan smuggler boyfriend Neelix. In the second season, a Vulcan named T'Menos (played by Jeri Ryan) is assigned to the ship in place of T'Kes (who is taken by mysterious time traveller Crewman Braxton into the future), to the annoyance of some fans.
Star Trek: Enterprise (2256):
Commander T'Pol is a valued member of Starfleet, raised in a human family after the death of her Vulcan one in a Klingon attack many years prior. She is assigned to the USS Columbia under Captain Hernandez for seven years, and following an attempted mutiny and martyring the Suliban religious figure Silik (which leads to a long protracted war with the Suliban), she is drummed out of the service and imprisoned for life. She is then recruited by the mysterious Captain Jonathan Archer, of the USS Enterprise (NX-1301), to investigate a special spore drive invented by Denobulan new age scientist Dr. Phlox. They manage to rescue the colony on Paragaan II using the spore drive to surprise the Suliban. The spore drive is navigated by a giant monstrous figure nicknamed "Tripper" by the now-deceased security chief Reed.
Star Trek: Discovery (2266):
Captain Lorca, Commander Burnham, and Mr. Saru, of the USS Discovery (NCC-1731) travel the stars week after week, going where no man has gone before. They encounter strange new creatures (like the salt-eating tardigrade in "The Man Trap"), new life and new civilizations (the Preservers of Amerind). They also encounter colorful rogue Harry Mudd (played by Stanley C. Carmel) on two seperate occassions. The Klingon Kol is an enemy in one memorable episode of the first season. Other colorful members of the supporting cast include Doctor Culber, Engineer Stamets, and Lieutenant Tyler. The first pilot, featuring Captain Georgiou, was not picked up by NBC and had to be drastically rewritten to be less cerebral. Most of the cast (minus Saru and Burnham) were dropped, and a new Captain developed. In the second pilot, Captain Lorca loses his best friend Al Landry due to an encounter around a rare "Binary Star".
Star Trek: The Next Animation (2269):
The animated adventures of Captain Picard and crew. Join the USS Enterprise as it travels to distant lands (the Deneb Triangle), encounters a being claiming to be a god (Q), and the outrageous rogue Okona. The dialogue can be a little stilted, and its hard to understand the weird accent used by Counselor Troi (Majel Barrett). The pink coloring on Lieutenant Worf was due to the directors color-blindness.
Star Trek: The Deep Generation (2364):
Returning to television after many successful movies (including most famously Star Trek II: The Wrath of Voq), Gene Roddenberry's utopian vision of the future included the bald Captain Sisko of the USS Defiant, a former commander of the Saratoga (lost in battle), who commands a ship including kick-ass Commander Kira, raised on a world controlled by roving gangs, the shapeshifter Odo who wants to become human, and the lothario Lieutenant Dax. Sisko punches a godlike being in the first episode, and later is sent into the Gamma Quadrant (briefly) where he meets the mysterious Dominion. This becomes a plot point later on in a couple episodes, and the movie Star Trek: Past Tense. Captain Sisko also has a flirtation with Doctor Claire Finn, and the alien Nog (nephew of the Two Forward lounge host, Quark) is derided by fans as too much of a wunderkind. He's shipped off to Starfleet Academy and only comes back in the seventh season. The series is followed by four movies, although the last one (featuring Sisko fighting a Cardassian head of state Dukat in some sort of weird action movie scene) was not well-received.
Star Trek: Deep Space K-7 (2369):
James Kirk is a man recovering from the death of his crew on the Farragut, when he's assigned to Deep Space K-7 near Sherman's Planet, a planet recently freed from Klingon control in a treaty. Working alongside his alien liaison, Mr. Spock, his British engineer Montgomery Scott, and his best friend, "old man" Leonard McCoy, he quickly finds himself exalted to godlike status amongst the colonists of Sherman's Planet. Eventually, the Romulan Star Empire enters into a state of cold war, and then real war, with the Federation following Kirk and Spock's espionage in one story arc to steal a cloaking device (which they use on their ship, the Enterprise). In a seven-episode arc in the final season, Kirk and crew manage to end the war with the Romulans and also save Sherman's Planet from a Klingon invasion (the Klingons having entered into an alliance with the Romulans), with Kirk seeming to die in a fight with his Klingon nemesis Kor (the man who shot and killed Uhura after Nichelle Nichols left the show).
Star Trek: Enterpriser (2371):
Ignore that last one. Anyway, Captain Kirk is assigned to the Enterprise as they investigate a group of Orion pirates, when they are sent out into the far off reaches of the Delta Triangle. There, an alien being known as Kukulkan has abducted many races, before he was too die. Kirk, to protect it from the Orion pirates, destroys Kukulkan's ship and only means to escape the Triangle, and begins the long journey back home. Many of his crew (including Chekov) did not survive the trip to the Triangle, but they are joined by the alien smuggler Arex, and his girlfriend M'Ress, who promptly accept positions onboard the Enterprise. When the ratings start to dip, the producers bring back Klingons over and over again. The most popular episode is the one where the Vulcan crewmember time travels to an earlier time in his life.
It's also kind of hard to not picture Kirk into talking the Borg into fits of hysteria, screaming "Irrelevant!", "Inefficient!" and ultimately "Illogical!" before destroying themselves ... Followed, of course, by some sage comments from Spock to the effect that 'they pursued logic to such a degree it precluded IDIC. The acquisition of logic should always be embedded within a solid moral framework. For example, one such as Vulcan philosophy provides ', resulting in some witty repartee with McCoy.
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What if what Spock did for Sarek was more akin to what Jake did for Sisko in The Visitor? In Journey to Babel, donating blood to Sarek was noble and not without risk, but it would be interesting to see what he would have done over a lifetime for Sarek, and maybe learn more about what he feels for his father.
Capt. Gabriel Lorca is replaced by Capt. Mackenzie Calhoun. No significant change to the timeline noted. 
Capt. Jean-Luc Picard is replaced by Capt. Ed Mercer. It doesn't take 7 years and an intervention from Q to get him to play poker with his senior officers. Escapes the Dyson Sphere by sending his security chief out in an EV suit to "open that jar of pickles" for him.
Capt. Kathryn Janeway is replaced by Capt. O.J. Readmore. Literacy in the Delta Quadrant is improved by 41%
Capt. Jean-Luc Picard is replaced by Capt. Ed Mercer. It doesn't take 7 years and an intervention from Q to get him to play poker with his senior officers. Escapes the Dyson Sphere by sending his security chief out in an EV suit to "open that jar of pickles" for him.
Capt. Kathryn Janeway is replaced by Capt. O.J. Readmore. Literacy in the Delta Quadrant is improved by 41%
Voyager would have been toast.
But, assuming the jellyfish ship didn't also appear in that area, Nero would have been out of luck too, spending the rest of his life mad with vengeance but never able to meet up with Spock again.
Kor
Yep, Picard would have rejected the role of emissary outright and then lectured the Bajorans about it. The Bajorans would feel alienated and the Bajoran isolationists from the second season would have been successful. It may have even lead to that timeline that worf went to in Parallels where the Bajorans were forming their own interstellar empire and causing problems for the federation.
Elizabeth Shelby is given command of the U.S.S. Voyager and ordered to hunt down former Lieutenant Commander turned Maquis Captain Calvin Hudson whose raider vanished in the Badlands with an undercover operative onboard. When she discovers its her former Academy instructor, Lieutenant Commander Tuvok she takes the mission very personally. Before leaving Earth she is advised to seek the help of Nathan Hawk, another Starfleet officer who went AWOL and joined the Maquis following the death of his husband at the hands of the Cardassians. She gets him to sign on as a civilian advisor.
Onboard Voyager, Shelby welcomes her new crew including Science Officer Lieutenant Aiva Stadi and Operations Manager Ensign Samuel Lavelle, before the ship launches and heads into the Badlands. Once deep inside, cut off from all communications, the ship is swept across the galaxy into the Delta Quadrant where they team up with Hudson to help find a crewmember from each ship who was abducted (Lavelle from Voyager and Hudson's Chief Engineer B'Elanna Torres). On their way they recruit the aid of the roguish Neelix, a felinoid-like alien with a tragic past, who then rescues Kes, a slave of the Kazon, who tells the crews that their missing crew are with her people beneath the surface. With Neelix and Kes' help, Shelby and Hudson manage to rescue their missing crew and return to the Array that brought them to the Delta Quadrant.
Shelby faces a dilemma when the Kazon arrive and attempt to seize and board the Array in order to use its power to propel themselves ahead of the other Sects and species in the region. Does she use the Array to get home and leave the Ocampa and others at the mercy of the Kazon or does she take a stand to help save countless lives, but doom both crews to a seventy year journey home?
Onboard Voyager, Shelby welcomes her new crew including Science Officer Lieutenant Aiva Stadi and Operations Manager Ensign Samuel Lavelle, before the ship launches and heads into the Badlands. Once deep inside, cut off from all communications, the ship is swept across the galaxy into the Delta Quadrant where they team up with Hudson to help find a crewmember from each ship who was abducted (Lavelle from Voyager and Hudson's Chief Engineer B'Elanna Torres). On their way they recruit the aid of the roguish Neelix, a felinoid-like alien with a tragic past, who then rescues Kes, a slave of the Kazon, who tells the crews that their missing crew are with her people beneath the surface. With Neelix and Kes' help, Shelby and Hudson manage to rescue their missing crew and return to the Array that brought them to the Delta Quadrant.
Shelby faces a dilemma when the Kazon arrive and attempt to seize and board the Array in order to use its power to propel themselves ahead of the other Sects and species in the region. Does she use the Array to get home and leave the Ocampa and others at the mercy of the Kazon or does she take a stand to help save countless lives, but doom both crews to a seventy year journey home?
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Capt. Kathryn Janeway is replaced by Capt. O.J. Simpson.
Not sure. Nero wasn't impatient in his vengeance. It seems likely to me that he would have played pretty with Voyager and worked together to get home. THEN they'd have been toast. Unless he had grown to like them too much for that. It strikes me that this would have been MUCH more interesting than the actual Maquis plot that we got.
Or does she use the array to get home, and leave behind a warhead connect to a simple timer?
^Better make very sure the Kazon won't be able to crack or otherwise deactivate/defuse the mechanism after you leave but before it explodes, then. Janeway might be a bit of a control freak.
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Janeway could have stayed with the warhead if she was that bothered.
Remember that to use the array they'd have to fight off the Kazon first though, then hope they could figure it out. It wasn't a binary choice of "stay or go".
If Wesley Crusher had been on DS9 instead of Jake, Nog would never have been the first Ferengi to be in Starfleet. Also, Nog would have remained illiterate.
Wesley would not have hung out or be friends with Nog. Wesley would have considered Nog a dumb lowlife to be avoided.
Wesley would not have hung out or be friends with Nog. Wesley would have considered Nog a dumb lowlife to be avoided.
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