Mrs Darcy the Duck might be my favorite addition to the multiverse.
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After a couple of more sombre episodes, it was nice to have a change of pace with a wacky comedy.
I never knew how much fun I could have with Captain Marvel and Thor duking it out.
Thor flipping down Stonehenge like a stack of dominoes really made my day, as was the hurry to get everything just right again.
I never knew how much fun I could have with Captain Marvel and Thor duking it out.
Thor flipping down Stonehenge like a stack of dominoes really made my day, as was the hurry to get everything just right again.
Oh, lordy.
Comedy, like many things, is in the eye of the beholder. And clearly a lot of people loved this style comedy. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean the comedy in this episode wasn't any good.
Also: What Greg Cox said.
I guess no one ever showed you Looney Tunes as a child.
They all comedy issue of What If...? was easily the best issue of that book ever published. No issues with the humor here.
I've only read a handful of What If...? Which story was that one?
I didn't think this latest was that good. I do like comedy and liked the comedy in the zombie episode but this one felt very dumbed down as in it was written only for kids. I have no idea why any of these people other than Thor and his friends and maybe Howard the Duck would even show up to this party.
I felt the comedy in the Zombie episode was way out of place considering that it wasn't keeping a comedic tone but trying to emulate a real MCU Zombie invasion.
If Thor ever held a party like that I'd be there in a shot.
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On the contrary -- I learned a lot about humor from Chuck Jones. He would've been the first to agree that good comedy comes from a core of consistent characterization, and he literally said as much in his writings. He was the one who created the mature characterizations for Bugs Bunny, Daffy Duck, and so many others, replacing their random zany antics with plots that arose specifically from their personality traits and follies -- Bugs's comic heroism in defense of the little guy, Daffy's egotistical delusions of competence, the Coyote's obsessiveness and mechanical ineptitude, Pepe LePew's inability to recognize his own repulsiveness, etc. That was his particular genius that made his cartoons the best that Warner Bros. had to offer. The versions of Bugs and Daffy and the others that we know today are the ones with the distinct personalities that Jones defined, rather than the interchangeable chaotic goofballs that Tex Avery and Bob Clampett had initially made them. That's because they were better, richer, more memorable, funnier characters once they had clearly defined personalities and goals that drove their actions. Kurt Vonnegut said "Every character should want something, even if it's only a glass of water." We relate to characters by relating to their pursuit of their goals and their values. So a good story is one that arises from those personal goals and needs, rather than one where events just happen randomly. That's as true in comedy as in drama.
Good grief, even in Marx Brothers movies, the humor arose from the characters' individual personalities and priorities. You couldn't swap Groucho's actions for Chico's or Harpo's. They behaved in ways that arose out of who they were and what their goals were, rather than having random actions arbitrarily assigned to them. The humor made sense on a character level if not in any other way. That's what I'm saying.
Shouldn't the fact that everyone else found it funny tell you that the problem wasn't that the episode wasn't funny because of some rule, but that you just didn't find it funny.
How dare Disney make comic animation FOR CHILDREN!!!!!!!
Well, yeah, that's what I've been saying. Whatever gave you the impression I was saying anything else? Just because I explained why I didn't find it funny doesn't mean I was trying to change anyone else's mind. You're under no obligation to agree with me.
Maybe don't talk about what is and isn't good comedy as if you're some authority on the subject.
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Hey I am a big fan of humor and also MCU humor and if they wanted to do something for kids I would have gone more Lower Decks. Some of the jokes felt more for grade school level. Problems is it was joke after joke but they never really made any of it feel plausible compared to all the other MCU stories we have seen.
Humor is subjective. I adore Seinfeld and think it's the greatest American sitcom of the past thirty years but I also know people who just don't get it and the awful, selfish behavior exhibited by the four leads just turns them off or they find it not entertaining. In the same vein LD is a show I like and a lot but I get why some Trekkies think it's just taking the campy aspects of Trek too far and making Trek into a slapstick sitcom.
I disagree with both camps who don't see things as I do, but that's their prerogative and hey, as long as Groucho or Bugs or Jerry Seinfeld make me laugh then whether or not it comes from a rigidly consistent fictional personality and set of ethics I'm happy and enjoyed myself.
I disagree with both camps who don't see things as I do, but that's their prerogative and hey, as long as Groucho or Bugs or Jerry Seinfeld make me laugh then whether or not it comes from a rigidly consistent fictional personality and set of ethics I'm happy and enjoyed myself.
Might backtrack a bit, i didn't find the episode funny at all.
Stark, Peter, Darcy, Quill etc. with their one liners absolutely, i just didn't find anything that happened in that episode funny at all. Hell, Thor was funny in Ragnarok but not because he actively tried to make some jokes, his actions and stories turned out to be funny. In this episode he just wasn't.
I quite enjoyed this episode, a refreshing change of pace from the usual What Ifs. None of the gags were ultra funny, but I liked the accumulated zaniness of it all. I think my favorite little bit in the whole thing was Grandmaster and Topaz riding off on the scooters at the end.
Regarding the final scene at the very end: We saw the Infinity Stones, presumably from another universe, but didn't we just learn in Loki that the Infinity Gems only hold power in their own universes? (If they're taken elsewhere, they're just paperweights?)
Regarding the final scene at the very end: We saw the Infinity Stones, presumably from another universe, but didn't we just learn in Loki that the Infinity Gems only hold power in their own universes? (If they're taken elsewhere, they're just paperweights?)
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