What Has Discovery Added To Star Trek Lore?

[Phoenix219]

Pretty low resolution graphics there. The text is covering the entire screen. It doesn't compare to this:

If you look at the environments they look equally real. The klingons on the discovery holodeck were in the process of being deactivated from being shot probably. The same thing happens on 24th century holodecks

The one that's not constrained within the area of the holo-emitter, a known vulnerability for 24th century holograms. Do they even mention holo emitters on Discovery? Holograms can appear just about anywhere on Discovery it seems like



The one with all of the fancy details on it. TNG one is just a ball with a couple ships on it.

Isn't that why Pike is having them taken out? They are integrated into the entire ships systems (no homoemitters needed) but it is a pretty big security risk and what not....

 

[marsh8472]

Ummmnnn.....
Brand new models of this coming out in 2019.

That's not what the new versions are going to look like though (not supposed to hotlink images either ). That same picture is featured on this page https://www.androidauthority.com/motorola-razr-v3-888664/ released in 2004. You all don't think about fact-checking each other instead of giving it likes?

 

[Lord Garth]

That's not what the new versions are going to look like though (not supposed to hotlink images either ). That same picture is featured on this page https://www.androidauthority.com/motorola-razr-v3-888664/ released in 2004. You all don't think about fact-checking each other instead of giving it likes?

I don't need to check anything but, for the hell of it, I'm going to give your post a like.

 

[Tuskin38]

Can we all stop responding to Marsh and get back on the topic at hand?

They gave us a logo for the Tellarites.

Does this count as lore?

 

[DaveyNY]

That's not what the new versions are going to look like though (not supposed to hotlink images either ). That same picture is featured on this page https://www.androidauthority.com/motorola-razr-v3-888664/ released in 2004. You all don't think about fact-checking each other instead of giving it likes?

OK, I know you feel the need to be correct all the time, so I fixed my image.

But, you failed to R E A D and COMPREHEND what I posted, in your haste to reprimand me...

I essentially stated that there are BRAND NEW MODELS of that kind of phone coming out in 2019.
And apparently you completely ignored the SAMSUNG model of a flip phone that I posted.

 

[DaveyNY]

To get back on topic at hand, they gave us a logo for the Tellarites.

Does this count as lore?

Wasn't it seen in one of the MU episodes last season?

 

[Tuskin38]

Wasn't it seen in one of the MU episodes last season?

I don't believe so. The first time I remember seeing it was in the season 1 finale.

 

[DaveyNY]

I don't believe so. The first time I remember seeing it was in the season 1 finale.

Ahh, I'm probably having another senior moment then.
Misremembered.

 

[marsh8472]

That does look to be the direction they're heading.

Spoiler: what pike said

Apparently, Enterprise is the only ship in the fleet that's had any problems.
You know, he warned me.
The damn holographic comm system.
Tell Louvier to rip out the entire system.
From now on we'll communicate using good, old-fashioned view screens.

They're going to make Kirk and Pike look like nostalgic people putting older technology on their ships while making the fancy looking technology the norm of that era. Even though we see that same old technology on other ships and starbase facilities. Those were just other nostalgic people putting older tech on their ships and starbases too perhaps

OK, I know you feel the need to be correct all the time, so I fixed my image.

But, you failed to R E A D and COMPREHEND what I posted, in your haste to reprimand me...

I essentially stated that there are BRAND NEW MODELS of that kind of phone coming out in 2019.
And apparently you completely ignored the SAMSUNG model of a flip phone that I posted.

But I did say "generally". Cherry picking for instances for the exception does not disprove the general rule of thumb.

Today's flip phones still look fancier than the ones in the past. I'm sure you could find something else to make the point. Something where there's not as much social pressure for newer versions to be better than the previous versions. I noticed they still sell TI-83 graphic calculators in the store.... there use that

 

[fireproof78]

Don't appearances generally indicate advancement?

Only because we are culturally conditioned consider such things "advancement."

And typewriters are coming back.

Honestly, this misses the whole point of Star Trek tech and Star Trek lore. We're so lost in the weeds that the show itself doesn't even matter any more.

 

[marsh8472]

And typewriters are coming back.

Honestly, this misses the whole point of Star Trek tech and Star Trek lore. We're so lost in the weeds that the show itself doesn't even matter any more.

I guess you can say as far as star trek lore is concerned is that the series adds more ambiguity to technology abilities of post-22nd century. Can someone think of any technological ability in the 24th century that we can say with confidence they won't be able to do on Discovery in some future episode? I'm stumped. I can't think of anything.

 

[Tuskin38]

Or we could not, and just talk about the lore the show has added just like the thread title asks before the thread gets locked again.

 

[fireproof78]

I guess you can say as far as star trek lore is concerned is that the series adds more ambiguity to technology abilities of post-22nd century. Can someone think of any technological ability in the 24th century that we can say with confidence they won't be able to do on Discovery in some future episode? I'm stumped. I can't think of anything.

Star Trek tech has always been ambiguous. That is not new. And people have pointed out technological abilities and differences that have been ignored, so this discussion is circular and benefits no one.

On topic, Discovery has added much to the lore, but specifically, I appreciate more depth to Spock, Sarek and Pike.

 

[Lord Garth]

1. It's now adding a season-long arc that doesn't focus on a war.
2. It's adding more dimension to the 23rd Century.
3. It's added homosexuals to Star Trek.
4. It's added burritos to Star Trek.
5. It's added The Beatles and David Bowie to Star Trek.
6. It's added mushrooms to a franchise besides Mario.
7. It's adding another approach to producing Star Trek on TV.
8. It's added cool costumes.
9. It's added some great aliens to the crew.
10. It's added great insight into some people's true colors.

 

[DaveyNY]

Just having Number One show up adds gobs of new lore.
(including hamburgers)

 

[marsh8472]

Star Trek tech has always been ambiguous. That is not new. And people have pointed out technological abilities and differences that have been ignored, so this discussion is circular and benefits no one.

On topic, Discovery has added much to the lore, but specifically, I appreciate more depth to Spock, Sarek and Pike.

Or we could not, and just talk about the lore the show has added just like the thread title asks before the thread gets locked again.

Yeah maybe they won't be able to create a holographic crew member like the EMH doctor. I think they're capable of it though so I can't say with confidence that it won't happen. Ah well maybe someone else can think of something.

Some lore "Mirror, Mirror" presumably was not the first cross-over to the mirror universe, exposure to Kelpiens and Airiam the robot, half robot, or whatever she is.

 

[fireproof78]

Yeah maybe they won't be able to create a holographic crew member like the EMH doctor. I think they're capable of it though so I can't say with confidence that it won't happen. Ah well maybe someone else can think of something.

Probably not.

Probably not going to do a whole lot with any kind of armor system, like Future Janeway had.

Probably not going to see a phasing cloak or the like.

Some lore "Mirror, Mirror" presumably was not the first cross-over to the mirror universe, exposure to Kelpiens and Airiam the robot, half robot, or whatever she is.

I always figured that there had been other cross overs to the Mirror Universe.

Androids are not exactly unique in the TOS era, so Ariam is not a stretch.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Androids are not exactly unique in the TOS era, so Ariam is not a stretch.

Yep, Kirk managed to stumble across three different types. One invented by an human

 

[ScottJ85]

Engineers having weird dreams about playing the drums for a Prince concert are now canon.

 

[Awesome Possum]

Star Trek tech has always been ambiguous. That is not new. And people have pointed out technological abilities and differences that have been ignored, so this discussion is circular and benefits no one.

On topic, Discovery has added much to the lore, but specifically, I appreciate more depth to Spock, Sarek and Pike.

The characters and story have always been the point of the show, obsessing over how the technology doesn't perfectly lines up seems way too obsessive and unhealthy to me. It's a show don't worry about it.