And Admiral Janeway's appearance in Nemesis...?
What happened to the "improved" Voyager technology?
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It's stuck in a vault somewhere because to use it would violate he Temporal Prime Directive. Or Section 31 confiscated it and uses it whenever they feel like it. Those are the two best ideas I think.
payndz201 said:
The Bat-armour probably ended up in the same place as all the other ultra-tech that Starfleet has obtained over the years but never bothered to use, like the spare Suliban cellship, every last item from Daniels' quarters, Kelvan trans-galactic warp drive, the mind-swap machine or all the ways TNG came up with to use the transporter to cheat death, reverse aging, etc. I'm guessing Section 31 has a giant warehouse somewhere like the one from the end of Raiders of the Lost Ark.
Don't forget the phase cloak.
Yeah but that's because the Pegasus' crew were incompetent.
And where do they spend entirely too much of their time on the starship Voyager? Ah yes.. the holodeck.
Obviously Starfleet promoted her and allows her to telecommute to fulfill her duties as Admiral. Every morning Captain Chakotay gets up and commands Voyager while Admiral Janeway goes to holodeck 2.
Her image is projected into her San Francisco office to interact with everyone that needs to see her that day. Her San Francisco office, and everyone that enters it, is projected in holodeck 2 for her to interact with.
Come on, anyone with 2 eyes can see that!
Of course they did. I'm merely following along with this amusing "What if?" game.
Ah, the Holodeck. That also explains why Borg and Ferengi data files got mixed up in Riker's 4-year pre-Federation "Enterprise" simulation.
You know ... the crew to my recollection used holodeck to relax and unwind mostly.
In rare situations did they use it for messing with someones perspective.
Besides, Janeways uniform in Nemesis is another indication the ship got back to the AQ.
One thing that happened during the show itself was that the uniforms the crew wore never changed.
Also ... in regards to the techs.
From onscreen evidence we know the Borg were exposed to only 2 types of tech from the future.
The armor they assimilated which was rendered useless rather quickly (became as effective as Voyager shields against Borg weapons) but the torpedoes ... they never assimilated those, nor did they adapt to them prior to the destruction of the TW network (which was mentioned in the show to have been obliterated, and during the plan that was discussed in astrometrics it was mentioned a chain reaction will spread throughout the entire TW network, and the hub VOY encountered connected to others in all 4 quadrants).
The Borg could probably switch to quantum slipstream without resorting to TW conduits or hubs, but we don't know if they will do it.
Also, if VOY has the shuttles database in it's computer, then SF's only major problem would be the armor, and modifying the torpedoes (which were not assimilated nor did the Borg adapt to them before the TW network was destroyed along with the sphere that held Voyager in it's interior) shouldn't present too much of a problem.
The Borg never got anything more than the armor and were showed the effectiveness of Transphasic torpedoes to which they could have adapted, but we don't know in what state the Borg are after destruction of the TW network and the Unimatrix which was never destroyed in the past to begin with and was effectively showed to be the central operating point of the Borg.
Making assumptions that Endgame events did nothing is an unsupported claim (besides there are 0 evidence to support that theory) and that's a fact.
SF has the future techs, access to Borg technology, 7 of 9, and numerous other DQ techs at their disposal.
If the Borg make a comeback and if SF was busy (behind the scenes) then they have a decent chance of reducing the damage the Borg do to them in the next encounter.
Nothing states that the Borg will not continue defeating the Feds for some time to come ... still, with all the factors and tech at Feds disposal atm (if done properly) they can reduce the damage the Borg will do in the future.
In rare situations did they use it for messing with someones perspective.
Besides, Janeways uniform in Nemesis is another indication the ship got back to the AQ.
One thing that happened during the show itself was that the uniforms the crew wore never changed.
Also ... in regards to the techs.
From onscreen evidence we know the Borg were exposed to only 2 types of tech from the future.
The armor they assimilated which was rendered useless rather quickly (became as effective as Voyager shields against Borg weapons) but the torpedoes ... they never assimilated those, nor did they adapt to them prior to the destruction of the TW network (which was mentioned in the show to have been obliterated, and during the plan that was discussed in astrometrics it was mentioned a chain reaction will spread throughout the entire TW network, and the hub VOY encountered connected to others in all 4 quadrants).
The Borg could probably switch to quantum slipstream without resorting to TW conduits or hubs, but we don't know if they will do it.
Also, if VOY has the shuttles database in it's computer, then SF's only major problem would be the armor, and modifying the torpedoes (which were not assimilated nor did the Borg adapt to them before the TW network was destroyed along with the sphere that held Voyager in it's interior) shouldn't present too much of a problem.
The Borg never got anything more than the armor and were showed the effectiveness of Transphasic torpedoes to which they could have adapted, but we don't know in what state the Borg are after destruction of the TW network and the Unimatrix which was never destroyed in the past to begin with and was effectively showed to be the central operating point of the Borg.
Making assumptions that Endgame events did nothing is an unsupported claim (besides there are 0 evidence to support that theory) and that's a fact.
SF has the future techs, access to Borg technology, 7 of 9, and numerous other DQ techs at their disposal.
If the Borg make a comeback and if SF was busy (behind the scenes) then they have a decent chance of reducing the damage the Borg do to them in the next encounter.
Nothing states that the Borg will not continue defeating the Feds for some time to come ... still, with all the factors and tech at Feds disposal atm (if done properly) they can reduce the damage the Borg will do in the future.
Once Voyager came in contact with the AQ and learned of the new uniforms, it was decided not to waste the resources on upgrading the Voyager uniforms, a wise decision that I agree with. But since Admiral Janeway is regularly telecommuting to a desk in the AQ she went ahead and spent some replicator rations on a new uniform. I imagine everyone else on Voyager still wears the "old" ones.
How would a "new" uniform use up more replicator rations than an "old" one?
I thought they didn't have any laundry-type things in the future and just replicated a new set of clothes (as and when needed) instead of washing their old ones...
I thought they didn't have any laundry-type things in the future and just replicated a new set of clothes (as and when needed) instead of washing their old ones...
The jury is still out on that. True, there was talk about replicating new uniforms where none existed originally (say, for Nog as he went to the Academy), but there was also mention of Data having a closet full of clothes, which "The Most Toys" established as Starfleet uniforms all...
There's an explicit laundry service in the 2290s in ST6:TUC, although it may well be of the "break down and reassemble" type sometimes suggested in background material. A slightly more refined version of that might exist for the 24th century. Probably people don't put their dirty clothes in the replicator (Yecchh! That's where they get their food from!) but there might be a separate laundry "dereplicator" that receives the dirty clothes, and performs selective rearrangement on them depending on how dirty they actually are. Some are merely washed (say, if Riker wore them for landing party duty, or Kirk off duty), while others are completely rebuilt (say, if Kirk wore them on landing party duty, or Riker off duty).
(Also, as for "Endgame", there's some doubt as to whether Admiral Janeway brought along the instructions on how to make the new armor, or instead a set of armor devices. The dialogue is ambiguous - and while the machinery installed on the outside of the ship is bulky, each of those bulky items may contain just one crucial microchip brought along by Adm. Janeway. Thus, it wouldn't be possible to equip any other ship with that technology before it was deciphered and reverse-engineered, because there'd only be a limited number of those chips available in the meantime.)
Timo Saloniemi
There's an explicit laundry service in the 2290s in ST6:TUC, although it may well be of the "break down and reassemble" type sometimes suggested in background material. A slightly more refined version of that might exist for the 24th century. Probably people don't put their dirty clothes in the replicator (Yecchh! That's where they get their food from!) but there might be a separate laundry "dereplicator" that receives the dirty clothes, and performs selective rearrangement on them depending on how dirty they actually are. Some are merely washed (say, if Riker wore them for landing party duty, or Kirk off duty), while others are completely rebuilt (say, if Kirk wore them on landing party duty, or Riker off duty).
(Also, as for "Endgame", there's some doubt as to whether Admiral Janeway brought along the instructions on how to make the new armor, or instead a set of armor devices. The dialogue is ambiguous - and while the machinery installed on the outside of the ship is bulky, each of those bulky items may contain just one crucial microchip brought along by Adm. Janeway. Thus, it wouldn't be possible to equip any other ship with that technology before it was deciphered and reverse-engineered, because there'd only be a limited number of those chips available in the meantime.)
Timo Saloniemi
Lt. Barkley accidentally left the keys inside Voyager and then activated the Batmobile armor.
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I think most timeline episodes are a cop-out, they constantly screw up the writers continuity.
I dunno if this has been mentioned yet but...
Perhaps starfleet was still reverse-engineering all the crap that Voyager brought back. It would take WAY more than 2 years to figure all that stuff out then refit the entire fleet (or even one ship for that matter) with that stuff.
Perhaps starfleet was still reverse-engineering all the crap that Voyager brought back. It would take WAY more than 2 years to figure all that stuff out then refit the entire fleet (or even one ship for that matter) with that stuff.
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