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What Does The Name Lucian Alliance Mean?

The real question should be - what is the Lucian Alliance's motivation, and what makes them a real "threat" to our heroes?

The Lucian Alliance wishes to protect they and theirs in the wake of the fall of the System Lords. They seek to do this by establishing a power base by whatever means necessary, including addictive corn scams, racketeering, piracy, and, apparently, archeology. Ideally, I assume they wish to establish themselves as a mafia-style organization, with protection rackets and fingers in everybody's pies, eventually moving on to being a legitimate, noncriminal (but probably still despotic) interplanetary government. Their threat comes from the fact that they're finicky to stomp out, and have more ships than we do, so they can easily mess with our shit. Of course, when you mess with shit, it stinks, as the LA learned when one of their extremely rare goa'uld battery-planets just recently exploded.

However, they are largely ineffectual. I really wish someone would actually get in some good, down-home racial taunting at the non-Tau'ri humans once in a while. I wanted it when all the people in Pegasus got sticks up their asses about why we deserved to run Atlantis (um, because we come from the Ancients' planet, the Ancients told us where to find the city, and the Ancients' buddies all explicitly identified us as their inheritors? That enough for you?), and I wanted it when the Lucian Alliance started whining about how Destiny belonged to all of humanity, even the losers who were enslaved by glowy-eyed Liberace until last week.

Listen, bitches. You see how you're using our guns? That's because, five thousand years ago, our ancestors drove off the Goa'uld. With sticks, a rope, and busted-ass invisible time machine. Yours, on the other hand, sat around with their thumbs up their asses, only being freed when whatever rock you got planted on tapped out of naquuada and you weren't worth the trouble of moving again, or we, those pussy Tau'ri you keep trying to jack around, liberated you. Generally with four guys, one of whom wore glasses. We own your asses in so many ways it's not even funny. And, guess what? If you wanted the goddamn ship so much, you should've fucking well dialed in to it yourself. You had a 4,900 year head start on us. We didn't even know what a stargate did until fifteen years ago, and in that time, we knocked over an empire that had been holding the galaxy in thrall for ten thousand years, made a half-dozen of the most bad-ass starships since the Ancients themselves were tooling around firing their swarms of space-bees at anything that pissed them off, recovered not one but two impossibly distant Ancient facilities you folks barely even knew about, and we did it with 99% of our population not even knowing what was up. Can you imagine what we'd achieve if we were actually trying?

Jesus. Apparently, the Goa'uld were breeding for stupid off-world. That's the only possible explanation for why Lara Croft over there would think it was smart to antagonize the slayers of, let me get the list, Ra, Hathor, Setesh, Heru'ur, Sokar, Cronus, Apophis, Imhotep, Anubis, Moloc, and like, eighty different Ba'als, not to mention killing all the Ori and converting their Priors, because we had "laws" and "ethics" that would keep us from "killing the fuck out of you when we easily could." Dumbass, when a highly successful entity has tons of artificial constraints on its behaviors, that just means it's badass enough to thrive in spite of them. Didn't you learn anything from Admiral Cain? "Murmurm, you're a bunch of pussies who debate law and kept fifty thousand people safe, and I lost half my crew the first week after the attacks, so I'm so much more badass and effective then you, even though the results clearly show otherwise. Now let me torture this cylon prisoner to insanity to make me feel better about nailing her, because nothing bad could possibly happen because of that."

So, yeah, it's fair to say that if I were in the SGC and had to put up with the Brotherhood, or the Genii, or the Lucian Alliance whining about how we just march in and take over like we think our shit doesn't stink, I'd quickly develop a strong anti-transplanted-human bigotry. 'Cause you know what? Our shit doesn't stink, because while you lot were being fattened like cattle or whipped by jaffa, we were inventing the toilet and indoor plumbing.

Tau'ri, motherfuckers. It means "First World." And that means its our galaxy, you just live here. Deal with it.
Dude, I'm not gay, but I'd let you have me if you wanted.
 
The real question should be - what is the Lucian Alliance's motivation, and what makes them a real "threat" to our heroes?

The Lucian Alliance wishes to protect they and theirs in the wake of the fall of the System Lords. They seek to do this by establishing a power base by whatever means necessary, including addictive corn scams, racketeering, piracy, and, apparently, archeology. Ideally, I assume they wish to establish themselves as a mafia-style organization, with protection rackets and fingers in everybody's pies, eventually moving on to being a legitimate, noncriminal (but probably still despotic) interplanetary government. Their threat comes from the fact that they're finicky to stomp out, and have more ships than we do, so they can easily mess with our shit. Of course, when you mess with shit, it stinks, as the LA learned when one of their extremely rare goa'uld battery-planets just recently exploded.

However, they are largely ineffectual. I really wish someone would actually get in some good, down-home racial taunting at the non-Tau'ri humans once in a while. I wanted it when all the people in Pegasus got sticks up their asses about why we deserved to run Atlantis (um, because we come from the Ancients' planet, the Ancients told us where to find the city, and the Ancients' buddies all explicitly identified us as their inheritors? That enough for you?), and I wanted it when the Lucian Alliance started whining about how Destiny belonged to all of humanity, even the losers who were enslaved by glowy-eyed Liberace until last week.

Listen, bitches. You see how you're using our guns? That's because, five thousand years ago, our ancestors drove off the Goa'uld. With sticks, a rope, and busted-ass invisible time machine. Yours, on the other hand, sat around with their thumbs up their asses, only being freed when whatever rock you got planted on tapped out of naquuada and you weren't worth the trouble of moving again, or we, those pussy Tau'ri you keep trying to jack around, liberated you. Generally with four guys, one of whom wore glasses. We own your asses in so many ways it's not even funny. And, guess what? If you wanted the goddamn ship so much, you should've fucking well dialed in to it yourself. You had a 4,900 year head start on us. We didn't even know what a stargate did until fifteen years ago, and in that time, we knocked over an empire that had been holding the galaxy in thrall for ten thousand years, made a half-dozen of the most bad-ass starships since the Ancients themselves were tooling around firing their swarms of space-bees at anything that pissed them off, recovered not one but two impossibly distant Ancient facilities you folks barely even knew about, and we did it with 99% of our population not even knowing what was up. Can you imagine what we'd achieve if we were actually trying?

Jesus. Apparently, the Goa'uld were breeding for stupid off-world. That's the only possible explanation for why Lara Croft over there would think it was smart to antagonize the slayers of, let me get the list, Ra, Hathor, Setesh, Heru'ur, Sokar, Cronus, Apophis, Imhotep, Anubis, Moloc, and like, eighty different Ba'als, not to mention killing all the Ori and converting their Priors, because we had "laws" and "ethics" that would keep us from "killing the fuck out of you when we easily could." Dumbass, when a highly successful entity has tons of artificial constraints on its behaviors, that just means it's badass enough to thrive in spite of them. Didn't you learn anything from Admiral Cain? "Murmurm, you're a bunch of pussies who debate law and kept fifty thousand people safe, and I lost half my crew the first week after the attacks, so I'm so much more badass and effective then you, even though the results clearly show otherwise. Now let me torture this cylon prisoner to insanity to make me feel better about nailing her, because nothing bad could possibly happen because of that."

So, yeah, it's fair to say that if I were in the SGC and had to put up with the Brotherhood, or the Genii, or the Lucian Alliance whining about how we just march in and take over like we think our shit doesn't stink, I'd quickly develop a strong anti-transplanted-human bigotry. 'Cause you know what? Our shit doesn't stink, because while you lot were being fattened like cattle or whipped by jaffa, we were inventing the toilet and indoor plumbing.

Tau'ri, motherfuckers. It means "First World." And that means its our galaxy, you just live here. Deal with it.

^You win.

Post this shit on GateWorld's Forums ASAP. or call it in to the Gateworld PODCAST pronto. I'd love to see what Darren & David say to this.

12 kinds of awesome wrapped in a rainbow.
 
The real question should be - what is the Lucian Alliance's motivation, and what makes them a real "threat" to our heroes?

The Lucian Alliance wishes to protect they and theirs in the wake of the fall of the System Lords. They seek to do this by establishing a power base by whatever means necessary, including addictive corn scams, racketeering, piracy, and, apparently, archeology. Ideally, I assume they wish to establish themselves as a mafia-style organization, with protection rackets and fingers in everybody's pies, eventually moving on to being a legitimate, noncriminal (but probably still despotic) interplanetary government. Their threat comes from the fact that they're finicky to stomp out, and have more ships than we do, so they can easily mess with our shit. Of course, when you mess with shit, it stinks, as the LA learned when one of their extremely rare goa'uld battery-planets just recently exploded.

However, they are largely ineffectual. I really wish someone would actually get in some good, down-home racial taunting at the non-Tau'ri humans once in a while. I wanted it when all the people in Pegasus got sticks up their asses about why we deserved to run Atlantis (um, because we come from the Ancients' planet, the Ancients told us where to find the city, and the Ancients' buddies all explicitly identified us as their inheritors? That enough for you?), and I wanted it when the Lucian Alliance started whining about how Destiny belonged to all of humanity, even the losers who were enslaved by glowy-eyed Liberace until last week.

Listen, bitches. You see how you're using our guns? That's because, five thousand years ago, our ancestors drove off the Goa'uld. With sticks, a rope, and busted-ass invisible time machine. Yours, on the other hand, sat around with their thumbs up their asses, only being freed when whatever rock you got planted on tapped out of naquuada and you weren't worth the trouble of moving again, or we, those pussy Tau'ri you keep trying to jack around, liberated you. Generally with four guys, one of whom wore glasses. We own your asses in so many ways it's not even funny. And, guess what? If you wanted the goddamn ship so much, you should've fucking well dialed in to it yourself. You had a 4,900 year head start on us. We didn't even know what a stargate did until fifteen years ago, and in that time, we knocked over an empire that had been holding the galaxy in thrall for ten thousand years, made a half-dozen of the most bad-ass starships since the Ancients themselves were tooling around firing their swarms of space-bees at anything that pissed them off, recovered not one but two impossibly distant Ancient facilities you folks barely even knew about, and we did it with 99% of our population not even knowing what was up. Can you imagine what we'd achieve if we were actually trying?

Jesus. Apparently, the Goa'uld were breeding for stupid off-world. That's the only possible explanation for why Lara Croft over there would think it was smart to antagonize the slayers of, let me get the list, Ra, Hathor, Setesh, Heru'ur, Sokar, Cronus, Apophis, Imhotep, Anubis, Moloc, and like, eighty different Ba'als, not to mention killing all the Ori and converting their Priors, because we had "laws" and "ethics" that would keep us from "killing the fuck out of you when we easily could." Dumbass, when a highly successful entity has tons of artificial constraints on its behaviors, that just means it's badass enough to thrive in spite of them. Didn't you learn anything from Admiral Cain? "Murmurm, you're a bunch of pussies who debate law and kept fifty thousand people safe, and I lost half my crew the first week after the attacks, so I'm so much more badass and effective then you, even though the results clearly show otherwise. Now let me torture this cylon prisoner to insanity to make me feel better about nailing her, because nothing bad could possibly happen because of that."

So, yeah, it's fair to say that if I were in the SGC and had to put up with the Brotherhood, or the Genii, or the Lucian Alliance whining about how we just march in and take over like we think our shit doesn't stink, I'd quickly develop a strong anti-transplanted-human bigotry. 'Cause you know what? Our shit doesn't stink, because while you lot were being fattened like cattle or whipped by jaffa, we were inventing the toilet and indoor plumbing.

Tau'ri, motherfuckers. It means "First World." And that means its our galaxy, you just live here. Deal with it.

^You win.

Post this shit on GateWorld's Forums ASAP. or call it in to the Gateworld PODCAST pronto. I'd love to see what Darren & David say to this.

12 kinds of awesome wrapped in a rainbow.

Make sure you edit first they have Nanny software.
 
"Lucian" is actually a mis-spelling.

It should be "Losin' Alliance:, because, well, that's what they do all the time.


The real question should be - what is the Lucian Alliance's motivation, and what makes them a real "threat" to our heroes?
I haven't seen them in SG-1 but in Universe they seem to be dangerous like the North Koreans in real life. They are willing to use force during peace time under the knowledge that the superpower doesn't really want total war so are likely to absorb the punishment they dish out

actually I believe Earth has been at war with the alliance since season 10 of SG-1 and have been kicking their sorry asses.

The real question should be - what is the Lucian Alliance's motivation, and what makes them a real "threat" to our heroes?

The Lucian Alliance wishes to protect they and theirs in the wake of the fall of the System Lords. They seek to do this by establishing a power base by whatever means necessary, including addictive corn scams, racketeering, piracy, and, apparently, archeology. Ideally, I assume they wish to establish themselves as a mafia-style organization, with protection rackets and fingers in everybody's pies, eventually moving on to being a legitimate, noncriminal (but probably still despotic) interplanetary government. Their threat comes from the fact that they're finicky to stomp out, and have more ships than we do, so they can easily mess with our shit. Of course, when you mess with shit, it stinks, as the LA learned when one of their extremely rare goa'uld battery-planets just recently exploded.

However, they are largely ineffectual. I really wish someone would actually get in some good, down-home racial taunting at the non-Tau'ri humans once in a while. I wanted it when all the people in Pegasus got sticks up their asses about why we deserved to run Atlantis (um, because we come from the Ancients' planet, the Ancients told us where to find the city, and the Ancients' buddies all explicitly identified us as their inheritors? That enough for you?), and I wanted it when the Lucian Alliance started whining about how Destiny belonged to all of humanity, even the losers who were enslaved by glowy-eyed Liberace until last week.

Listen, bitches. You see how you're using our guns? That's because, five thousand years ago, our ancestors drove off the Goa'uld. With sticks, a rope, and busted-ass invisible time machine. Yours, on the other hand, sat around with their thumbs up their asses, only being freed when whatever rock you got planted on tapped out of naquuada and you weren't worth the trouble of moving again, or we, those pussy Tau'ri you keep trying to jack around, liberated you. Generally with four guys, one of whom wore glasses. We own your asses in so many ways it's not even funny. And, guess what? If you wanted the goddamn ship so much, you should've fucking well dialed in to it yourself. You had a 4,900 year head start on us. We didn't even know what a stargate did until fifteen years ago, and in that time, we knocked over an empire that had been holding the galaxy in thrall for ten thousand years, made a half-dozen of the most bad-ass starships since the Ancients themselves were tooling around firing their swarms of space-bees at anything that pissed them off, recovered not one but two impossibly distant Ancient facilities you folks barely even knew about, and we did it with 99% of our population not even knowing what was up. Can you imagine what we'd achieve if we were actually trying?

Jesus. Apparently, the Goa'uld were breeding for stupid off-world. That's the only possible explanation for why Lara Croft over there would think it was smart to antagonize the slayers of, let me get the list, Ra, Hathor, Setesh, Heru'ur, Sokar, Cronus, Apophis, Imhotep, Anubis, Moloc, and like, eighty different Ba'als, not to mention killing all the Ori and converting their Priors, because we had "laws" and "ethics" that would keep us from "killing the fuck out of you when we easily could." Dumbass, when a highly successful entity has tons of artificial constraints on its behaviors, that just means it's badass enough to thrive in spite of them. Didn't you learn anything from Admiral Cain? "Murmurm, you're a bunch of pussies who debate law and kept fifty thousand people safe, and I lost half my crew the first week after the attacks, so I'm so much more badass and effective then you, even though the results clearly show otherwise. Now let me torture this cylon prisoner to insanity to make me feel better about nailing her, because nothing bad could possibly happen because of that."

So, yeah, it's fair to say that if I were in the SGC and had to put up with the Brotherhood, or the Genii, or the Lucian Alliance whining about how we just march in and take over like we think our shit doesn't stink, I'd quickly develop a strong anti-transplanted-human bigotry. 'Cause you know what? Our shit doesn't stink, because while you lot were being fattened like cattle or whipped by jaffa, we were inventing the toilet and indoor plumbing.

Tau'ri, motherfuckers. It means "First World." And that means its our galaxy, you just live here. Deal with it.

QFT
 
I think I was spoiled by the fact that Goa'uld took the SGC seriously throughout most of the show. Pretty much from the get-go, in fact. It makes it stick out more when people who should know better underestimate the Tau'ri, or when the Tau'ri refrain from making arguments of their qualifications to strangers. I mean, yeah, most of the Pegasus people would probably think they were just bluffing and telling fish stories, but they never ever tried to build up their reputation. I mean, come on. The Atlantis and Destiny gates were specifically designed so you could only gate to them from Earth. That's a pretty good clue they were intended to be found by people hailing from Earth. The Destiny address was only in the Atlantis database, once again suggesting it was intended for people who lived on Atlantis.

Oh, and the Ancient starship crew from "The Return." Weir really could've made a stronger case to get their respect. "Well, see, one of us went back in time to when the people in charge of the city abandoned it, and they were totally cool with us taking over now. Even made sure we would be the only ones who could. Maybe you should respect the decision of your leaders."
 
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