Still fans because they are participating. I have met several people who do not like or have watched much Star Trek but they love the visual aesthetics, either starships or uniforms and love to add through design work.
To me that's a part of fandom.
What does it take to be a fan?
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To me that's a part of fandom.
I know. I was just joking. I have never dressed up. I think I might wore a com badge once at a convention but that was it. Not that I don't find it interesting. I would love to do it, I am just pretty shy so never really had the nerve. Plus I haven't been to a convention for awhile. Seems like nothing ever comes to Oklahoma and if it does it's always far away or I don't have money to really go to it.
Jason
Also note, Bback at one point TWOK was reviled by some just because it had gross-out bloody worm things and was quite adult too.
TMP was surprisingly lackluster, the only thing that was new was the more tangible level of sfx...
Over the decades, Trek encompasses many types and tropes. A fan, which is short for "fantastic" (good call, Lord Garth!
) as well as "fanatic" (oh dear), sums us all up to varying extents.
Fans find what they like to be more fantastic than most, and the fanatics probably prefer having more effort put into the shows than accepting whatever is made. Though what aspect(s) they're looking for the most may not be the same for others who are also fans. Which is why some episodes of a season are not given 10/10 ratings. Unless one is the sort of fanatic that gives every last episode a 10/10 regardless of reason (or how flimsy said reason is. It's still based on perception. Not unlike the polar opposite, those who give 1/10 for every last episode made.)
Lastly, I found a video essay of sorts, especially at the 5:29-onward mark., which discusses fandom in an optimistic, ideal viewpointy way...
(On edit: Just noticed two peoples' countenances. The video is not a 6 minute issue from or about (or by) them, but something rather better... )
TMP was surprisingly lackluster, the only thing that was new was the more tangible level of sfx...
Over the decades, Trek encompasses many types and tropes. A fan, which is short for "fantastic" (good call, Lord Garth!
) as well as "fanatic" (oh dear), sums us all up to varying extents.Fans find what they like to be more fantastic than most, and the fanatics probably prefer having more effort put into the shows than accepting whatever is made. Though what aspect(s) they're looking for the most may not be the same for others who are also fans. Which is why some episodes of a season are not given 10/10 ratings. Unless one is the sort of fanatic that gives every last episode a 10/10 regardless of reason (or how flimsy said reason is. It's still based on perception. Not unlike the polar opposite, those who give 1/10 for every last episode made.)
Lastly, I found a video essay of sorts, especially at the 5:29-onward mark., which discusses fandom in an optimistic, ideal viewpointy way...
(On edit: Just noticed two peoples' countenances. The video is not a 6 minute issue from or about (or by) them, but something rather better... )
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It is rather gross.
For me..a couple of things (whether sport or TV SHOW)
= Interest in the history and other details
= you attempt to follow all the pieces... whether games, episodes or issues, you try to be a part of all of them
= Seeking community ... if you see someone who shows interest in it (whether show or sport), you easily find some aspect to talk about it
= criticism is based on what you liked previously far more than what you see as wrong
= Interest in the history and other details
= you attempt to follow all the pieces... whether games, episodes or issues, you try to be a part of all of them
= Seeking community ... if you see someone who shows interest in it (whether show or sport), you easily find some aspect to talk about it
= criticism is based on what you liked previously far more than what you see as wrong
I wouldn't say fake but rather casual consumer the kind that helps keep the machine going
And catering too much to one side or the other doesn't do much good in the end. Unless the fan base is so big, but even then there are still times when getting the "uninitiated" into the show to make them fans of an established show isn't a bad idea...
Sports don't have the same logic, which is interesting. The game rules are the same, but any game made in 2020 is isolated and not dependent on what was played in 1970. They're all templates and self-contained, where the foul ball or touchdown dance at the end doesn't upend any other game that did the same thing. (Well, usually... sports aren't my thing but there's bound to be an incongruity somewhere between the decades, but it's fewer and farther between than long-running and evolving narratives that are story/universe franchises.)
100% true and 97% fun!
Usually. There are some issues where that cannot be. For example is this excerpt from a different TV show discussing the foibles of logic:
some old TV show from the UK said:
Unless someone retcons erroneously that elephants are now pink, when then upends every other elephant documentary ever made...
This needs to be updated to read "Alex Kurtzman" but the jist still works...
A fast rotating blade that can circulate air.
It's a snarky answer. But only because I find the question is so silly.
It's implied gatekeeping, which I fucking despise.
It's implied gatekeeping, which I fucking despise.
What about the ones you can hold in your hand and wave back and forth?
I'm doing a report for uni about fandom (people's taste in tv shows e.t.c) and I'd love to know what makes you a 'true' fan and what separates you from mainstream viewers. Fast replies would be amazing coz the essay is due in 4 days
There's no set criteria to be a fan or to be a 'true fan' (whatever that is). Either concept exists mainly as a means for a small bunch of fans to feel smug and superior about themselves. It's a method some fans employ to gatekeep the fandom.
I think gatekeeping is a over used term for what is really just passion and taking something way to serious. Everyone who complains ends up doing something like that for something they enjoy eventually anyways. Especially when you get older. All those fans who love lets say Rey in Star Wars will be in 30 years pissing and moaning when they find out she spent the rest of her life a moisture farmer and now it's up her son to learn from her mistakes and go out into Space and be a Hero and she was wrong to just sit back and let the Sith come back again.
Jason
Jason
I don't see it as passion, I see it as divisive and arrogant, often for the sake of it.
Arrogance can be part of passion but being divisive is just a by product of it. Not sure why it would be just for sake of it. People would always prefer something to go the way they want than to have it not go that way so they can complain about it. People do like a good fight though and love to see someone attack something they love so they can defend it.
People love to be defensive in that way. Plus they like having something that they feel really speaks to them which of course is where the passion comes from. I mean it's real simple. People love something and don't want it changed. People don't like change in almost any facet of life including their entertainment.
Jason
People love to be defensive in that way. Plus they like having something that they feel really speaks to them which of course is where the passion comes from. I mean it's real simple. People love something and don't want it changed. People don't like change in almost any facet of life including their entertainment.
Jason
It isn't about their enjoyment of something or their dislike of seeing it change. It's about the attitude towards other fans that have no issue with the change, and the attitude towards fans who became fans because of newer shows. To the gatekeepers, they're not really fans, and they waste no time in mentioning this. It's more than just arrogance - it's elitism.
I think we'll have to agree to disagree. I don't see passion behind the concerted attempts to exclude people from the fandom for not being a fan 'in the right way'. I see an elitist attitude.
