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what do you think about red shirts in other shows

brendhanbb

Lieutenant
Red Shirt
personaly i hate the concept of red shirts. seriously its stupid in most shows the red shirts are well people we dont care about who die pointlessly and well i hate to say this but i dont think people like that exist in real life one of the only shows i beleive it works is supernatural because well it shows that sam and dean cant save everyone. but other shows like lost and stargate just treat everyone except the main characters like red shirts and its kind of annoying how they die and everyone acts like they are ok with it 5 seconds later.
 
The worst offenders?

Anyone Russian in Stargate SG-1. Any knight in 'Merlin.'

i noticed that granted in one episode sam was almost a red shirt a russon comander turned into well water and sam was about to have the same thing happen but thankfully they reversed the process just in time.
 
I stopped paying attention to SG-1 when their two ships were in a battle with the Ori. All the main characters were on the 'Russian' ship. Yet who do they blow up? The Russians. Somehow, totally unexplained, everyone whose last name didn't end with 'ov' or 'sky' magically was able to escape.

And yes, that was a run-on sentence. But lets face it, there was so much going on there that picking any one problem isn't exactly helpful.
 
I stopped paying attention to SG-1 when their two ships were in a battle with the Ori. All the main characters were on the 'Russian' ship. Yet who do they blow up? The Russians. Somehow, totally unexplained, everyone whose last name didn't end with 'ov' or 'sky' magically was able to escape.

And yes, that was a run-on sentence. But lets face it, there was so much going on there that picking any one problem isn't exactly helpful.

its explaned how they do it. sam was not even on the ship. danel teleported. and camerion was in the 3o2 lauching as the ship was blowing up. makes sense to me. plus they said they had 6 surviors from the russion ship of coruse they were rescused off screen aigan dont u just love off screen moments :)
 
"And they called it ...Punctuuaaaationnnn"

(sung to the tune of Donny Osmonds' "Puppy Love")
 
24 was really bad about red-shirts (most often the security guards at CTU.) How bad? At one point they actually put their security guards in red shirts!
 
its explaned how they do it. sam was not even on the ship. danel teleported. and camerion was in the 3o2 lauching as the ship was blowing up. makes sense to me. plus they said they had 6 surviors from the russion ship of coruse they were rescused off screen aigan dont u just love off screen moments :)

You know most browsers these days have spell check built in?
 
its explaned how they do it. sam was not even on the ship. danel teleported. and camerion was in the 3o2 lauching as the ship was blowing up. makes sense to me. plus they said they had 6 surviors from the russion ship of coruse they were rescused off screen aigan dont u just love off screen moments :)

You know most browsers these days have spell check built in?

Since when has technology every countered blatant disregard for the English language?
 
Personally, I don't mind redshirts in other shows, mostly because they are by definition insignificant characters who don't really matter to the story. Their sole purpose is to illustrate the carnage required for a particular scene.

The thing I mind alot more is when one of those B-list stars turns up on a cop procedural show. You know the ones I'm talking about: the actors you've seen as guests on a million different shows...or the former TV stars who are either semi-retired or who have not been on a hit TV show as regular cast in a while. As soon as they come on the screen, I think to myself "Well, there's your killer". I mean, it could not BE any more obvious.

Sorta ruins the episode for me - especially if the cops don't figure it out until late in the episode and I knew who it was in the first 5 minutes of the show.
 
The thing I mind alot more is when one of those B-list stars turns up on a cop procedural show. You know the ones I'm talking about: the actors you've seen as guests on a million different shows...or the former TV stars who are either semi-retired or who have not been on a hit TV show as regular cast in a while. As soon as they come on the screen, I think to myself "Well, there's your killer". I mean, it could not BE any more obvious.

Sorta ruins the episode for me - especially if the cops don't figure it out until late in the episode and I knew who it was in the first 5 minutes of the show.

I actually love the guest stars. It's not like the plots are such a mystery otherwise, so I don't feel it ruins anything. And there's something awesome about seeing some of these actors play people that are really out there.
 
What about Gilligan, though? He was a redshirt and he could survive anything the Skipper could dish out. :mallory:
 
I think what I always hated about redshirts in Trek was it really makes the whole organization look like a bunch of incompetents. Our heroes(the people in the credits) come off looking like supermen and the rest of the gang you wouldn't trust to look after your plants for a weekend.
 
The worst offenders?

Anyone Russian in Stargate SG-1.
It has less to do with them being Russian and more to do with them not being main characters. There are quite a few episodes where an entire SG team other than SG-1 dies and SG-1 saves the day.

Redshirts don't really bother me much, unless, say, lots of them are killed just to save one main character. Someone has to die to make the situation seem dangerous or to show how a weapon/disease/whatever works, and main characters can't do that. Besides, I wouldn't like the cast to constantly change because the main characters often serve the role of a redshirt. And while heroic sacrifices are a cliché, that's the best way for main characters to die, not the anticlimactic and meaningless redshirt way.
 
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