What did Star Trek teach you INCORRECTLY?

[Discofan]

As an impressionable pre-teen starting to notice girls, Star Trek gave me the impression that it would be possible to get girls a lot more frequently than it turned out. Like, weekly. And they'd fall willingly into the sack with little or no effort. James Bond movies also contributed to this mental problem. Also, I was a teen in the 70s, and all the cool kids at school were having sex. Maybe it was just me.

I also got this back-of-the mind notion that death is never final. People kept getting killed on Trek and then came right back pretty darn soon. Superhero comics were also big contributors to this nonsense. So to this day, when somebody dies, I don't think I react the way a "normal" person would, because there's a notion floating in my mind that they'll be back by the end of the episode. :/

It looks like Star Trek ruined you. Maybe you should sue them.

 

[Forbin]

It looks like Star Trek ruined you. Maybe you should sue them.

I could try to pick up female jury members during the trial to prove my point.

 

[ALF]

"Respect is earned, not given away." - Worf.

It took a long time, but I now see it doesn't work that way. Respect is transactional, and if you are encountering someone for the first time, it's going to require a leap of faith on both parties. It may work great this way in fictional Klingon cultures, but there's not much weight in that sentiment to propel one forward.

 

[Discofan]

"Respect is earned, not given away." - Worf.

....

I believe Michael said that to Georgiou the first time they met, Sarek even told her to tone it down.

 

[The Wormhole]

Star Trek has not "returned to television". CBS has exploited the franchise to launch it's web streaming service.

Okay, brah.

 

[Kirby]

That you can actually do a Jim Kirk-style flying drop kick. I watched a ton of TOS reruns when I was a kid, and my only real fight was in 5th grade against Kevin Miller. I tried Kirk's famous move; didn't even come close to hitting the kid, fell on my ass and knocked the wind out of me.
Everyone had a good laugh at me, and the fight was over.

Most people thought that I just fell down, and I wasn't about to tell them I was trying something I saw on Star Trek.

 

[jmidnight_99]

I'm not sure why you're bringing TOS into this as I never mentioned TOS. However to answer your questions, People may not have watched it during first run, but that had a lot to do with the studio and also the fact that it was airing on a friday night. Re-runs which gave more people a chance to watch it and also the general rising popularity of sci-fi in the 70's is why Star Trek got it's second wind. I don't think TOS is the best example to use as it has never been subject to the same criticism that later series had to endure and creative fatigue wasn't a contributing factor to it's short run and lack of popularity. Which to link back to my original argument, was the main contributing factor to the end of 90's Trek.

And yes revisionism is in full force when people claim not to care about the faults of a previous series but willingly lambast the latest addition to the franchise for doing the same thing. Case in point, the Klingons. There was outrage when they were redesigned in TMP which people eventually got over. When Discovery did it, it was the end of the world. And segments of the fanbase are failing to apply the same criterion to Discovery that they do to other series.

You said yourself that you got over the issues that you had with previous series, so why can you not apply the same logic to Discovery?

And CBS isn't exploiting anything, they are using a product which they OWN to build a streaming service. That is just business. Never forget that Star Trek was first and foremost about making a man money, this is no different.

Also, what the issue with Discovery receiving a GLAAD award? If it's because of what I think it is, then quite honestly that is a detestable attitude for a Trek fan to have.

You don't need to answer. If I have to explain in detail what "TOS" has to do with the subject, then there is no point continuing, maybe someone else will take the time to explain it to you so that you can understand it. And my choices and opinions belong to me, your approval means nothing, sorry. Same post, over and over and over and over. And over.

 

[Agony_Boothb]

You don't need to answer. If I have to explain in detail what "TOS" has to do with the subject, then there is no point continuing, maybe someone else will take the time to explain it to you so that you can understand it. And my choices and opinions belong to me, your approval means nothing, sorry. Same post, over and over and over and over. And over.

Your need to try and belittle people says a lot about you. It's just a TV show and this is just the Internet. People are going to have different opinions than you learn to deal with it instead of tantrums

 

[1001001]

You don't need to answer. If I have to explain in detail what "TOS" has to do with the subject, then there is no point continuing, maybe someone else will take the time to explain it to you so that you can understand it. And my choices and opinions belong to me, your approval means nothing, sorry. Same post, over and over and over and over. And over.

Why are you so belligerent?

You can make your point without all the unnecessary condescension and unearned smugness.

Looking at your posting history, this is feedback you have received before.

Knock it off.

 

[Mutai Sho-Rin]

I'm a computer scientist and engineer, I don't need your Wikipedia links. I could write them. This entire post reads like the childish babble of a frustrated leftie to me, sorry. Like most frustrated lefties, you can't admit when you're wrong, and obviously, you can't admit when you've lost.

Please give me one example how a computer can "become" trapped in a "recursive cycle", "mathematical" or otherwise, and most importantly how this relates to anything we've ever seen on Star Trek. None of this is what you meant in your original post.

. Don't think everyone you respond to is a layperson. Time for more backpedaling now.....

Nothing like roaring in as a sarcastic noob slinging insults like manure fertilizer. May your tenure be short and bitter.

 

[Shawnster]

That you can actually do a Jim Kirk-style flying drop kick. I watched a ton of TOS reruns when I was a kid, and my only real fight was in 5th grade against Kevin Miller. I tried Kirk's famous move; didn't even come close to hitting the kid, fell on my ass and knocked the wind out of me.
Everyone had a good laugh at me, and the fight was over.

Most people thought that I just fell down, and I wasn't about to tell them I was trying something I saw on Star Trek.

Did you read Shatner's "Star Trek Memories" book? He did the same thing! He was out for ice cream (if I recall correctly) with his daughters when these guys started harassing/hitting on the girls. Daddy Shatner decided to whip out some Kirk-fu, not thinking that what he did and saw on set was scripted and performed by stunt doubles. He said he jumped up, changed direction, and promptly fell on his ass!

 

[Discofan]

That you can poison the atmosphere of an entire planet in a matter of seconds!!!

 

[Discofan]

Did you read Shatner's "Star Trek Memories" book? He did the same thing! He was out for ice cream (if I recall correctly) with his daughters when these guys started harassing/hitting on the girls. Daddy Shatner decided to whip out some Kirk-fu, not thinking that what he did and saw on set was scripted and performed by stunt doubles. He said he jumped up, changed direction, and promptly fell on his ass!

He's lucky he didn't break his coccyx.

 

[Kirby]

Did you read Shatner's "Star Trek Memories" book? He did the same thing! He was out for ice cream (if I recall correctly) with his daughters when these guys started harassing/hitting on the girls. Daddy Shatner decided to whip out some Kirk-fu, not thinking that what he did and saw on set was scripted and performed by stunt doubles. He said he jumped up, changed direction, and promptly fell on his ass!

That's awesome! My incident happened in 1979, but its good to know that even the guy who got credit for some awesome alien takedowns got caught up in the moment too. Maybe I should have gone for the double handed karate chop to the shoulder.

 

[Forbin]

That you can poison the atmosphere of an entire planet in a matter of seconds!!!

Can you imagine how fast the winds would have to be to spread that fast? They'd flatten the planet!

 

[JirinPanthosa]

For me it was sitcoms that did the most social skills damage to me. Shows like Full House taught me that when people are talking about something important to them, a dismissive sarcastic one liner is not only polite, it’s expected!

Also that all girls find nice well meaning beta males more attractive than assertive men.

Star Trek’s biggest bad lesson was that the story of humanity is one of a sustained upward trajectory toward global peace love and understanding.

Edit: Was wondering who the mods were responding to, then saw “Show ignored content” button at the bottom. I forgot I had anyone on ignore but looks like I made the right call.

 

[Qonundrum]

"Respect is earned, not given away." - Worf.

It took a long time, but I now see it doesn't work that way. Respect is transactional, and if you are encountering someone for the first time, it's going to require a leap of faith on both parties. It may work great this way in fictional Klingon cultures, but there's not much weight in that sentiment to propel one forward.

Except people gave respect to Charles Manson, Jim Jones, and certain others. Didn't end well for them...

But Worf's line reminds me of another show, from 1978 (BBC):

CALLY: My people have a saying: A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.
AVON: Life expectancy must be fairly short among your people.

Fictional Auronar culture was a lot more amusing at times.

 

[Qonundrum]

I'm a computer scientist and engineer, I don't need your Wikipedia links. I could write them. This entire post reads like the childish babble of a frustrated leftie to me, sorry. Like most frustrated lefties, you can't admit when you're wrong, and obviously, you can't admit when you've lost.

Please give me one example how a computer can "become" trapped in a "recursive cycle", "mathematical" or otherwise, and most importantly how this relates to anything we've ever seen on Star Trek. None of this is what you meant in your original post.

. Don't think everyone you respond to is a layperson. Time for more backpedaling now.....

10 PRINT "PLEASE DON'T GO THERE WITH POLITICKING"
20 GOTO 10
RUN

Does that help?

 

[jmidnight_99]

10 PRINT "PLEASE DON'T GO THERE WITH POLITICKING"
20 GOTO 10
RUN

Does that help?

Only if the enterprise computer is a Commodore 64.

 

[jmidnight_99]

Why are you so belligerent?

You can make your point without all the unnecessary condescension and unearned smugness.

Looking at your posting history, this is feedback you have received before.

Knock it off.

I know... I should just shrug it off. But "mathematical logic loops"? Really?

From now on, I'll take a step back and think "What would Captain Picard do...." I can't be 100% sure I'm not going to forget and do "what Kira Nerys would do" once in a while, but I'll try hard.

Sorry.