what are your thoughts/opinions on these old sci fi movies?

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  1. Jedi Marso

    Jedi Marso Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Aug 15, 2001
    Here's a link to a tribute video from Battle Beyond the Stars, featuring the main theme by James Horner.

    Love the whiskey dispenser in Space Cowboy's belt. :techman:

    It's better than Rise of Skywalker. :shrug:

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  2. The Jewish Grinch

    The Jewish Grinch scotpens Premium Member

    Nov 29, 2009
    City of the Fallen Angels
    I pretty much agree with Christopher on Close Encounters of the Third Kind and Logan's Run. Logan's Run, in particular, has an interesting concept but weak execution. As for the sets and effects, the miniature domed city looks surprisingly fake and the Dallas shopping mall locations look like a shopping mall.

    Westworld (1973): Lots of fun on a modest budget.

    Battle Beyond the Stars: See Westworld.

    Space Raiders: Never heard of it.
  3. Happy Xmas (War Is Over)

    Happy Xmas (War Is Over) If You Want it Premium Member

    Nov 4, 2001
    Nutopian North Pole
    10 years in the business as a manager. We had a large inventory, no way I could know them all.

    When I was a kid we didn't have HBO, because it didn't exist yet. I was 13 the year it launched, :lol:
  4. Starkers

    Starkers Admiral Admiral

    Apr 22, 2001
    Behind Enemy Lines
    Close Encounters is a film I've seen only once. Can't say it made a huge impression on me.

    Logan's Run is an odd one. As others have said the first half is great, but it peters out towards the end. I think the stuff in the city is great, and Logan is a great adversary. Back in the day I was a fan of the TV series, which I realise in hindsight probably wasn't very good, but at least it had more of a story outside of the city than the film did.

    Westworld is a decent film. Is very much a film of two halves again, but both are interesting. In particular the final act turns out to be quite the harbinger for The Terminator as Richard Benjamin is hunted by Brynner's remorseless killing machine. There's more than a little of Arnie in there (or maybe it's fairer to say there's more than a little Brynner in the T-800)

    Battle Beyond the Stars. Ah you have to love it don't you. So many fond memories of this, but haven't seen it in ages. Amazing how many shots turned up in other films. I still get annoyed when Peppard and Vaughn die! All this plus John Boy and Sybil Danning's quote for the ages ;)

    Space Raiders. Doesn't ring a bell, but suspect maybe I rented it back in the day. Ice Pirates made more of an impression on me.
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  5. Tosk

    Tosk Vice Admiral Admiral

    Jan 7, 2001
    On the run.
    You could step over that bar with little effort. ;)

    Close Encounters of the Third Kind. Love it, except for the ending.
    Logan's Run. Never really been able to fully appreciate it.
    Westworld. Like it, generally. I'm distracted by James Brolin's future-resemblance to Christian Bale in it.
    Battle Beyond the Stars. Eh.
    Space Raiders. Not seen.
  6. Christopher

    Christopher Writer Admiral

    Mar 15, 2001
    Since most of us haven't seen Space Raiders, I checked, and it turns out that it's available for free on ShoutFactoryTV.com and YouTube.
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  7. Relayer1

    Relayer1 Vice Admiral Admiral

    Aug 21, 2011
    The Black Country, England
    I was going to drop in here just to be the lone poster that hates Close Encounters, but I'm surprised to find I'm not !
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  8. BILL Clay

    BILL Clay Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Oct 28, 2011
    If memory serves, Harlan Ellison famously hated it. But he was the first RETURN TO OZ champoin.
  9. DarrenTR1970

    DarrenTR1970 Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

    Aug 1, 2015
    Bothell, WA
    I had the Giant Size Marvel Tresury Edition of Close Encounters, and if I'm remembering correctly, it had at least one scene in it that didn't show up until the Special Edition a few years later; and that was the scene where Bob Balaban (sp) talks about the coordinates being longitude and latitude and the scientists break into the office to steal the globe and roll it down the hallway.
  10. Admiral2

    Admiral2 Admiral Admiral

    Sep 14, 2004
    Harlan Ellison was a DICK. If he hated CE, that just elevates it in my eyes.
  11. Admiral2

    Admiral2 Admiral Admiral

    Sep 14, 2004
    That's my second favorite scene.
  12. dupersuper

    dupersuper Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Jul 24, 2020
    Close Encounters of the Third Kind: slow build up but what a pay off
    Logan's Run: cool premise, got weird fast
    old Westworld movie: also rather slow, but interesting
    Battle Beyond the Stars: haven't seen it
    Space Raiders: haven't seen it

    I like the three of these that I've seen.
  13. Ar-Pharazon

    Ar-Pharazon Admiral Premium Member

    May 19, 2005
    Far North Chicago Suburbs
    Battle Beyond The Stars is the only one I saw in the theater.

    A fairly not-cheesy Roger Corman movie (at least compared to most of his work ;)).

    Nothing against the other movies, they were all good films IMO. I'm not sure I ever saw Space Raiders, though it might be worth finding.
  14. Christopher

    Christopher Writer Admiral

    Mar 15, 2001
    Here it is:
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  15. Ar-Pharazon

    Ar-Pharazon Admiral Premium Member

    May 19, 2005
    Far North Chicago Suburbs
    Thanks. No, I looked it up earlier, read the plot. It looks to have had a limited blu-ray release around 2015.

    I may pick up a copy if it isn't too overpriced, just out of curiosity. I like physical media whenever possible and my DVD shelves have no shortage of cheesy and just plain bad movies.

    ETA: Aaaand, ordered from a favorite ebay seller for $19.
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  16. vandevere

    vandevere Captain Captain

    Aug 4, 2021
    It also had Morgan Woodward as one of the characters who was brought in to defend the planet...
  17. MacLeod

    MacLeod Admiral Admiral

    Mar 8, 2001
    Great Britain
    The only one of those that I haven't seen nor heard of is Space Raiders, and it's been years if not decades since I watched Westworld or Logan's run, and it's been a good number of years like 5+ since I watched either BBTS and Close Encounters.

    If I was channel hopping and they were on I might watch them but I don't think I woud actively seek them out not because I think they are bad movies just that I've seen some of them enough times that I have to be in the mood for them.

    I could know doubt thing of other 70's or 80's movies that I've only seen a couple of times that I would rather catch again to sometimes bask in how cheesy some them are.
  18. Timewalker

    Timewalker Cat-lovin', Star Trekkin' Time Lady Premium Member

    May 26, 2007
    In many different universes, simultaneously.
    Close Encounters... saw it in the theatre when it was first released.

    That was the second SF/F movie I recall with Teri Garr playing the whiny wife whose husband gets "contacted" by some mysterious being/force he's adamant is there, she can't perceive it, so she thinks he's nuts and leaves him (the other one is "Oh, God!").

    I still get a chuckle when Roy Neary (Richard Dreyfuss) is talking to one of the scientists about the Devil's Tower and he says, "I have one like it in my living room." The thing about that movie is that everyone who was "contacted"/had their "close encounter" had a compulsion to reconstruct the Devil's Tower or play those five musical notes.

    Neary's reconstruction started out as mashed potatoes in his supper dish, but ended up as a huge sculpture made of various odds and ends including the neighbor lady's chicken wire.

    The aliens themselves, though? Dumb-looking.

    It was years between getting the Logan's Run book and finally seeing the movie. I was 13, the movie was only playing at the drive-in, and there was no way my family would have let me go.

    When I finally did get to see the movie on TV, it turned out to be both like and unlike the book. The basic themes are the same, but the rest is quite different. The movie's rationale for the domed city is a refuge from nuclear war, whereas the novel's rationale for Last Day is population control. Novel Last Day is at age 21, whereas the movie is at age 30. Most people on Earth live in domed cities scattered around the world, connected via the maze car network, and the people who leave the cities are the misfits who prefer life in the wilderness (or they're Runners... and I'm not going to spoil what the novels - plural; this is actually a trilogy - say about Sanctuary).

    I haven't seen the other movies listed.

    Sorry, I don't do paywalls.

    It was hardly intended to look like anything else. Even for the characters it's a public place leading to shops, businesses, and entertainment venues.
  19. kirk55555

    kirk55555 Vice Admiral Admiral

    Jul 22, 2011
    Washington State, USA
    The only one of those I've seen is Close Encounters of the Third Kind. I consider it the worst Spielberg movie I've seen, and quite possibly the most boring film I've ever seen. It is so slow it almost makes 2001 A Space Odyssey seem like it has good pacing (almost), and at least that movie has the stuff with Dave/HAL, which doesn't save that movie but its something. Close Encounters of the Third Kind on the other hand doesn't have a single thing that makes it worth watching. If you've seen someone parody the mashed potato scene, and you probably have, then you've seen literally the only scene that is even slightly memorable.
  20. Mojochi

    Mojochi Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Aug 18, 2007
    Teri Garr got typecast HARD as the whiny wife/mom for a loooong time. Oh God!, Close Encounters, Tootsie, Mr. Mom, Let It Ride (Also with Dreyfus) Probably some I'm forgetting. All through the 80s it was like her goddamn calling card. She owned it. It's kind of a shame really.
    Dude, toys come to life. A child is abducted by aliens. There's like a police chase. They climb Devil's Tower & get gassed by the military. There's plenty of it that's memorable. Whether that makes it objectively good is debatable lol
    Can't you say that about quite a lot of Spielberg though? lol. I mean I love his movies more than most, but even I can recognize the sappiness over substance in most of it. I will give CET3K some credit though for much of its story being subtext, about a guy in existential crisis, even before the aliens

    I'm not going to come in here & defend it much, even though I still enjoy Close Encounters. Pretty much all the criticisms about it are valid. Even Spielberg cops to some of it now. Overall, it is in hindsight one truly disconcerting narrative about aliens brainwashing a guy into abandoning his family, & a slant that implies we should be not only cool with that, but excited about it. Still, a lot of what was done in that picture was revolutionary filmmaking. Between it & Star Wars that same year, sci-fi was flipped on its ear

    In fact, it's interesting we're also talking about Logan's Run from a year earlier. I feel like that movie would've gotten much more acclaim over the years, had it not been dwarfed a year later, by having been done in a style that in the coming months would look like it was a decade old, when the entire genre was remade in the Lucas/Spielberg mold
    Now that imho is the worst Spielberg movie ever
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