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What are your opinions regarding Star Trek that are, shall we say, unorthodox?

I really liked the Lily's character and the actor was far above McFadden's skill, no offence to the latter. She had some great lines in a short amount of time that McFadden could not have pulled off. Plus it gave us a chance to see what a person from that era was like, whereas Cochrane is just a generic drunk, Lily is the kind of guerilla-engineer type of character that we see occasionally like Naomi Nagata in The Expanse.

It's not so much an unorthodox opinion as it is a head-cannon thing, but I like to think Lily is the reason that Earth armed up so quickly with a space navy between the events of FC and ENT (multiple Kzin Wars during that time notwithstanding). She'd actually seen a hint of what was out there and wasn't going to trust Earth's protection to the Vulcans once they established a presence on Earth. Also, it doesn't appear like she actually saw any actual Vulcans while she was on the Enterprise and that had to have left certain questions..
Yeah, I know Lily's a popular character, not necessarily saying it should have happened but just if she was going to have an expanded role in one of the movies that was the one that makes sense. Not sure what she'd do in any of the others.
 
Yeah, I know Lily's a popular character, not necessarily saying it should have happened but just if she was going to have an expanded role in one of the movies that was the one that makes sense. Not sure what she'd do in any of the others.
She could have started Insurrection by saying "This is just a two hour long TV episode, and not a very good one. Demand your money back and wait for it to come out on video. And no, the next one will not be better." and saved us all a lot of time and caused our undying adoration. But you're right. i don't know, either. Picardo upstaged her in FC but he does that wherever he is.
 
Yeah, I know Lily's a popular character, not necessarily saying it should have happened but just if she was going to have an expanded role in one of the movies that was the one that makes sense. Not sure what she'd do in any of the others.
But without Beverly whose boobs would Deanna get to comment on. Such quality writing reminiscent of who cares when your toes curl
 
She could have started Insurrection by saying "This is just a two hour long TV episode, and not a very good one. Demand your money back and wait for it to come out on video. And no, the next one will not be better." and saved us all a lot of time and caused out undying adoration. But you're right. i don't know, either. Picardo upstaged her in FC but he does that wherever he is.
As discussed on the last page she could have been his wife in the Nexus although that would have been a short scene too. Maybe Wesley shows up and the prospect of spending eternity with him snaps him back to reality.
 
Picard and Beverly is such a terrible pairing, it has never been compelling in the slightest and no reasonable writer would ever give them children.
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Amazing what happens when you have a writing staff that actually understands how to write Troi as a person, innit?

Not just that, but also the director. Let's face it, Ewan McGregor and Natalie Portman are both amazing performers, but when you at the prequels.....
If you have bad dialogue and a bad director, you can be an great actor and still perform badly.
 
I remember the line about it, the Wesley deleted scene and the Martin Madden scene but I don't remember seeing Bev in Starfleet Medical. Been a very long time since I've watched them or Nemesis as is for that matter.
I was able to find it on YouTube, albeit in rather low quality.

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Not just that, but also the director. Let's face it, Ewan McGregor and Natalie Portman are both amazing performers, but when you at the prequels.....
If you have bad dialogue and a bad director, you can be an great actor and still perform badly.
A friend and I have long maintained that, for whatever reason, that was intentional on George Lucas' part. Both of them are great actors, as you mentioned. It had to be deliberate direction to act that wooden.
 
I was able to find it on YouTube, albeit in rather low quality.

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One line and one very small scene both cut. Give Beverly something that might move her character along and then don't bother to put it in the film anyway. Would Nemesis have been any different if they had a random doctor scanning Troi in sickbay and just threw in a line that Beverly had left?

Perhaps unorthodox but I choose to accept this as my headcanon outcome with Picard season 3 completely disregarded. I also headcanon that her brief stint as head of Medical in TNG season 2 was because McCoy had died and her knowledge of the Bluegill made her a trustworthy interim surgeon general while Starfleet sorted its shit out in the aftermath of that but she turned down the position full time to be with Wesley.
 
A friend and I have long maintained that, for whatever reason, that was intentional on George Lucas' part. Both of them are great actors, as you mentioned. It had to be deliberate direction to act that wooden.
I don't see anything wrong with McGregor's performance. :shrug:
This is just a two hour long TV episode, and not a very good one.
...remind you of anything
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A friend and I have long maintained that, for whatever reason, that was intentional on George Lucas' part. Both of them are great actors, as you mentioned. It had to be deliberate direction to act that wooden.
George liked to paint the Republic as a more formal, stoic period of galactic history and the Jedi as very etiquette-oriented and rigid in speech patterns, though we frequently saw many cases to the contrary for both.
 
George liked to paint the Republic as a more formal, stoic period of galactic history and the Jedi as very etiquette-oriented and rigid in speech patterns, though we frequently saw many cases to the contrary for both.

Sure, but the character didn't act like that. They were wooden, and struggled with the dialogue. Hell, the infamous balcony scene between Padme and Anakin.... That's not formal and stoic, simply bad directing and writing.
 
'09 is nowhere in the same weight class as the nominated movies for the 82nd Academy Awards:
  • The Hurt Locker [WINNER]
  • Avatar
  • The Blind Side
  • District 9
  • An Education
  • Inglourious Basterds
  • Precious
  • A Serious Man
  • Up
  • Up in the Air

I've only seen four of these. Avatar, District 9, Inglourious Basterds and Up.
 
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