What are your opinions regarding Star Trek that are, shall we say, unorthodox?

[DarrenTR1970]

I found a link J. Michael Stracynski pitch if anyone is interested in reading it.

https://monsterscifishow.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/st2004reboot.pdf

 

[Set Harth]

Only a Star Trek nerd can hear that the original timeline is preserved and the new movies have no effect whatsoever on that continuity

Well... not entirely no effect. Romulus is still gone by 2387.

 

[Ray Hardgrit]

Well... not entirely no effect. Romulus is still gone by 2387.

My possibly unorthodox opinion is that this was actually an interesting choice that really shook up the 24th/25th century setting and could lead to some good stories in the future.

 

[cooleddie74]

Yeah, but that's a Prime Timeline event. The Kelvin is affected by the Prime.

 

[Ray Hardgrit]

It was a Kelvin movie event that affected the Prime universe.

 

[Set Harth]

My possibly unorthodox opinion is that this was actually an interesting choice that really shook up the 24th/25th century setting and could lead to some good stories in the future.

well this is awkward

 

[Laura Cynthia Chambers]

Unfortunately, now everybody's home planet is being replaced with New this and that...

 

[F. King Daniel]

I remembered an opinion: That the novels are as much legitimate Star Trek as the television shows.

At least it very much felt that way to me with the 80's and 90's books.

 

[XCV330]

Sometimes I want the entire franchise to be rebooted. Not like the Kelvin timeline, but completely and entirely with the real world today as the starting point. It's not because I don't like some of it (I love nearly all of it!), but it's because it's supposed to be OUR future. And it's supposed to be a HOPEFUL future, where we finally come together, make it off this rock, and make something of ourselves in the galaxy. So yeah, at times the differences between Trek history and the real world can be a bit much at times, but a complete reboot could reignite some of that hope. And there's a lot of times lately where I need that hope.

The problem, judging from how (comics, not movies, but probably movies too) every time Marvel and DC has attmpeted to clean slate their comic universes, they ALWAYS screw it up, usually within a year, making an even bigger mess than it was to begin with.

 

[BillJ]

I remembered an opinion: That the novels are as much legitimate Star Trek as the television shows.

At least it very much felt that way to me with the 80's and 90's books.

Novels and comics. Kirk’s time as captain of the Excelsior from DC Comics has just as much weight as anything live action.

A good story is a good story. Regardless of medium.

 

[BillJ]

Watching the third episode of Starfleet Academy. This is just bad.

Can’t believe this actually made it to filming.

 

[Ray Hardgrit]

The problem, judging from how (comics, not movies, but probably movies too) every time Marvel and DC has attmpeted to clean slate their comic universes, they ALWAYS screw it up, usually within a year, making an even bigger mess than it was to begin with.

Yeah, DC Comics is an ongoing lesson in why reboots are often a bad idea. The writers don't know what the status quo in their own stories is any more, the fans can't keep track of what characters' backstories are, and the most successful changes are often the ones that undo something and bring back old continuity.

One of the problems with reboots is that nothing ever goes away, you never get the clean slate. Everything will always be compared and confused with what happened originally. Recycled stories still feel stale whether they're in an old continuity or a new one. Old characters will still come back. It doesn't solve the problems people want to solve.

 

[Ray Hardgrit]

Watching the third episode of Starfleet Academy. This is just bad.

Can’t believe this actually made it to filming.

Wrong thread.

 

[Set Harth]

What, is that an orthodox opinion?

 

[BillJ]

Wrong thread.

I’m sure there’s a few folks who think it’s unorthodox.

 

[Ray Hardgrit]

What, is that an orthodox opinion?

Yeah, that's the joke I was trying to make.

 

[FredH]

Nothing new. Didn’t Douglas Adams replace Earth with Earth?

 

[FredH]

I remembered an opinion: That the novels are as much legitimate Star Trek as the television shows.

At least it very much felt that way to me with the 80's and 90's books.

It did — we knew it “wasn’t”, but with only a movie every couple of years to go on, it filled the space by default.

 

[Richard S. Ta]

well this is awkward

No it isn’t.

 

[BillJ]

It did — we knew it “wasn’t”…

They are all stories, seems silly to give one a higher status over the other. One either enjoyed the story or they didn’t.