What are your controversial Star Trek opinions?

[Farscape One]

Trip was ready to be, but it didn't work out. I think O'Brien was a good father. Dr. M'Benga did his best as a father and seeing your kid become Pure Consciousness is kind of like them graduating, I guess. Tom Paris may have been a decent father to one child, but also abandoned his salamander babies, so.. you have to take that into account. Can't say if McCoy was a good father or not.

In the case of "THRESHOLD", it's not all on Tom. Janeway let that happen, too. Chakotay decided to leavevthem on that planet (per his log entry), but she obviously outranked him... both as a captain and the kids' mom. She could have had them brought aboard.

In fact, I'd say it's more on her than Tom.

 

[Kamen Rider Blade]

In the case of "THRESHOLD", it's not all on Tom. Janeway let that happen, too. Chakotay decided to leavevthem on that planet (per his log entry), but she obviously outranked him... both as a captain and the kids' mom. She could have had them brought aboard.

In fact, I'd say it's more on her than Tom.

Imagine what would happen if they did bring back the 3 Salamander kids and turned them back into humans.

Then suddenly Janeway & Tom would have 3 kids, that would drastically change the inter-personal dynamics on board Voyager.

How would B'Elanna Torres react.

 

[Finn]

Not well. Tom's already a child.

 

[Tosk]

Beverly Crusher was a fairly decent mom in TNG.

Unless you count that entire year that she just left him on the ship without her.

 

[Jayson1]

Tuvok I think was said to be a good father. I get that impression from him as well when he would talk about his kids. Let's also not forget about Dr. Claire Finn. Also Bortus.

 

[knightgrace]

Actually she was playing the part of an intelligence agent for the Federation, investigating an alternative Earth, as the wife to Doctor of History Jack Ryan, a Professor of History at the United States Naval Academy...

She was delayed for several years due to problems of retrieval.

 

[Nyotarules]

This. Kirk was an absent father because Carol requested he be.

He's on my bad dad list. He took her get out of jail clause and ran with it

 

[The Wormhole]

Imagine what would happen if they did bring back the 3 Salamander kids and turned them back into humans.

Then suddenly Janeway & Tom would have 3 kids, that would drastically change the inter-personal dynamics on board Voyager.

How would B'Elanna Torres react.

Considering Threshold was well over a year before Tom and B'Elanna even began the "will they, won't they?" phase of courtship, and at least two years before their first verifiable canonical coupling onscreen, I'm not sure why B'Elanna would have a reaction in this hypothetical scenario.

 

[Grendelsbayne]

I think the Kelvin Time films are good action films. But if there's going to be a fourth installment in the series, it needs to be shot on a $100 million budget, and the actors, some of whom are extremely popular, need to be convinced to pay the same amount for the fourth installment as they did for the first three. There should be fewer explosions and more character interaction, more human characters, and fewer CGI characters.

What CGI characters even existed in those films other than Keenser (who's not that significant a character) and a few random aliens that only matter for one scene?

To be fair after TNG ended. Wesley was an adult that took off out of contact for periods of time.

We don't know what her relationship was with Jack beyond her, let's say questionable decision to prevent Jack from any relationship with his father throughout his childhood.

Her relationship with Jack was she refused to let him anywhere near his father for his own 'safety' but also raised him alone on a barely defensible two-man spaceship while regularly pissing off various low-life space criminals. The kid clearly grew up with a lot of experience of having to help her/them out of bad situations.

There's no way to spin that as good parenting, regardless of the details. At least not in the world of Star Trek, where she clearly had so many other, vastly better options to choose from.

 

[oktay]

What CGI characters even existed in those films other than Keenser (who's not that significant a character) and a few random aliens that only matter for one scene?

Many of the films have CGI characters, although the main cast does not.

 

[FredH]

Her relationship with Jack was she refused to let him anywhere near his father for his own 'safety' but also raised him alone on a barely defensible two-man spaceship while regularly pissing off various low-life space criminals. The kid clearly grew up with a lot of experience of having to help her/them out of bad situations.

Doesn’t help that this was a problem manufactured for the story. For the most part, nobody seemed to be gunning for Picard that much in the series we saw — I think one Klingon attempt on their homeworld, and the aborted Romulan kidnap/clone plot? He never seemed like a man looking over his shoulder.

 

[Kamen Rider Blade]

Considering Threshold was well over a year before Tom and B'Elanna even began the "will they, won't they?" phase of courtship, and at least two years before their first verifiable canonical coupling onscreen, I'm not sure why B'Elanna would have a reaction in this hypothetical scenario.

It was a year before? I must've gotten my timelines mixed up.

 

[Farscape One]

It was a year before? I must've gotten my timelines mixed up.

Yes. "THRESHOLD" was mid-season 2. There was no hint of Tom/B'Elanna until partway in season 3, and early season 4, "DAY OF HONOR", was when she confessed her love while floating in space.

 

[Kamen Rider Blade]

Yes. "THRESHOLD" was mid-season 2. There was no hint of Tom/B'Elanna until partway in season 3, and early season 4, "DAY OF HONOR", was when she confessed her love while floating in space.

I must've gotten the timelines mixed up in my mind, I thought it was S3 or S4.

 

[fireproof78]

Many of the films have CGI characters, although the main cast does not.

Not really for the Kelvin films. Maybe one or two. They are not the emphasis either. One criticism I've seen of the Kelvin films is the lack of alien characters at times.

But, of the Star Trek films I think the Kelvin films have some excellent human interactions, including small moments that feel very organic.

 

[Grendelsbayne]

Doesn’t help that this was a problem manufactured for the story. For the most part, nobody seemed to be gunning for Picard that much in the series we saw — I think one Klingon attempt on their homeworld, and the aborted Romulan kidnap/clone plot? He never seemed like a man looking over his shoulder.

There was Daimon Bok. You could possibly argue for Q. And I think maybe there was someone else, too, though I'm not sure. But I wholeheartedly agree it was utter nonsense. Even if we could find dozens of examples of Picard being a target, that list would still be dwarfed by the list of times the ship was in danger because of technology going haywire or because space is just a dangerous place.

And even discounting those issues, the Enterprise/Federation was still far more often the real target rather than Picard, even when Picard actually was the immediate target. The Romulans only cared about him as a means to an end. Daimon Bok wanted revenge for his son, but the only reason that meant going after Picard is because Bok's son attacked the Stargazer unprovoked in the first place. Picard was just doing his job and protecting his crew. Picard only caught Q's attention because Starfleet caught Q's attention. Etc, etc.

Crusher would've had a much more plausible position if she'd chosen to raise Jack on some simple Luddite colony somewhere far away from Starfleet.

 

[Shawnster]

Doesn’t help that this was a problem manufactured for the story. For the most part, nobody seemed to be gunning for Picard that much in the series we saw — I think one Klingon attempt on their homeworld, and the aborted Romulan kidnap/clone plot? He never seemed like a man looking over his shoulder.

And DaiMon Bok came at him twice

 

[drt]

And even if you buy her reasoning of keeping Jack safe from potential Picard assassins, she kept him in danger by bringing him along on her missions.

that life aged him 20 years

 

[FormerLurker]

What CGI characters even existed in those films other than Keenser (who's not that significant a character) and a few random aliens that only matter for one scene?

Many of the films have CGI characters, although the main cast does not.

Indeed. The only part of Keenser that was CGI was his eyes. The rest of him was an actor in a costume and makeup.

 

[knightgrace]

Reasoning from humans?

This is Star Trek.

Not reality.