What are your controversial Star Trek opinions?

[CoveTom]

Controversial Opinion:

"Code of Honor" isn't that bad of an episode. Certainly compared to the rest of season 1. It is the casting that ruined it. If they had cast it differently, with ethnic diversity, it would have been just another mediocre story.

 

[XCV330]

Why?

All flag officers in the USN are admirals. "Commodore" was the odd one out.

yeah, the Commodore assignment was a way for the Continental and later US Navy to step around the fact they weren't technically allowed to have flag officers. There are only three commodores left today, but many hold out that Lionel Ritchie will rejoin before its too late.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

There are only three commodores left today, but many hold out that Lionel Ritchie will rejoin before its too late.

Say you, say me.

So say we all.

 

[Farscape One]

I'm sure they'd be dancing on the ceiling if that were to happen...

 

[cooleddie74]

We need the rank of Fleet Captain. Asking for guys named Jeffrey and Anson.

 

[BillJ]

come to think of it, he was a widow from Paradise Syndrome on. did he have any other long term relationships shown after Miramanee (apart from whenever Carol Marcus and he were together)?

TMP's novelization had Kirk getting married to Vice-Admiral Lori Ciana. For whatever it is worth.

 

[137th Gebirg]

We need the rank of Fleet Captain. Asking for guys named Jeffrey and Anson.

We did, but not since the 19th century, apparently.

 

[XCV330]

TMP's novelization had Kirk getting married to Vice-Admiral Lori Ciana. For whatever it is worth.

A former love instructor?

 

[BillJ]

A former love instructor?

She's one of the folks that gets liquified in the transporter, according to the novel.

 

[137th Gebirg]

Always wondered who that other person was supposed to be.

Knowing this… Maybe it WAS Rand’s fault!!

 

[CorporalCaptain]

Alright, but (controversial opinion?) I don't think she was necessarily that person in the film. The director Wise had an interesting idea for who she was.

Memory Alpha article on her: https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wik...C-1701)_personnel#Transporter_accident_victim

She was played by Susan J. Sullivan and given the name Lori Ciana (β) in the novelization of Star Trek: The Motion Picture . The novel Forgotten History places her in a relationship with Kirk following his promotion to rear admiral. Her uniform, otherwise, bore no insignias indicating rank or division. [2](X)​

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In the DVD audio commentary for the Director's Cut, director Robert Wise suggested this officer was the Enterprise's original navigator and that Ilia was a last-minute replacement. Will Decker's surprised reaction at her arrival seemed to support this.​

 

[137th Gebirg]

My version’s WAY cooler, and would explain why Kirk nearly knocked Rand onto the floor and took the controls.

 

[korblborp]

that... i would expect kirk to be much more messed up over it if that were the case

 

[Jayson1]

Kirk keeps those feelings deep on the inside. Look at how fast he got over Sam's death.

 

[cooleddie74]

That's only because a Marlboro commercial had to begin a few minutes later.

 

[Detached Nacelle]

Sam died years ago he was just being puppeted by a sentient moustache

 

[137th Gebirg]

“Recently lost a loved one? 9 out of 10 doctors agree that smoking Marlboro Reds will calm the nerves, mow your lawn and solve unrest in the Middle East by dinner!”

 

[cooleddie74]

Sam died years ago he was just being puppeted by a sentient moustache

Mech-stash suit.

 

[The Wormhole]

"Code of Honor" isn't that bad of an episode. Certainly compared to the rest of season 1.

It's one of those episodes that's so bad it's kind of good.

 

[kkt]

It's not a great episode, but it's also not a terrible one.

I'd put it as a near-great. Great emotional show, but a braver show might have shown Kirk making the choice about whether to stay on the planet or go with his ship, which would have been further emotional knife-twisting.