What are your controversial Star Trek opinions?

[Phoenix219]

The ONLY good thing about Kirk's death is that it fulfills the "I always knew I would die alone." line.

I would have preferred a story like Yesterday's Enterprise, where the "A" is removed from Star Trek VI and the results are a never-ending war with the Klingons. The movie eventually returns the "A" (with some TNG members along for the ride) to the events of VI, and Kirk saves the day again, but dies in the process. Thus bringing to life the quote, "there will be no peace, as long as Kirk lives." He gives his life to cement peace with the Klingons. That is really the only version of him dying that I would be okay with. They should have just left him, Scotty and Spock together at the end of Generations, alive and well in the 24th century. It would have made Scotty's ending less lonely, as well.

 

[Phoenix219]

This. Such a wasted opportunity. My version would have been Kirk coming out with Picard taking his place, and having to interact with the entire TNG crew to find a solution to rescue Picard. He would butt heads with Riker, have nice moments with Data and Worf, and ultimately face off against the Bird of Prey, taking command, pulling rank like TMP, and using something that only Kirk could do to save the day. At the end, he could choose to stay in the Nexus to free Picard, that his mission is over, but their time is just beginning. End the movie with him walking onto a nexus version of HIS bridge, with HIS crew, even if just sound effects off screen, or people seen from the back. Roll credits.

And I would have an iconic funny line with Kirk commenting on Picard's chair. Something like MY chair was never this comfortable... Or Bones would have loved it that they finally had a chair for him..... Something. Lol.

 

[Paul755]

He should have sailed off into the unknown, living on in legend.

Yup, let Kirk’s fate be unknown. Especially after he really did sail off into the sunset at the end of TUC. That final log entry should have been the last time we heard his voice. Let his ultimate fate be up to each individual fan in their own headcanon.

That said…since they did use him. First don’t kill him (bad Ron Moore…bad). Second, I was never a fan of the idea of Kirk going on the E-D, crashed or not. It feels too cutesy or something. I would have much rather seen an epilogue of a pointy eared Kirk joining Spock on Romulus (flashing the same grin he gave Scotty in The Enterprise Incident) or some other kind of Kirk/Spock/Bones reunion. Maybe as a wordless cutaway under Picards monologue about time while he and Riker go thru the ready room looking for the family album.

 

[Humanoid #77]

Agreed except for the Romulan dungeon part. Not sure why the wish for such a wonderful character to experience a terrible fate.

He did go to Romulus on his own volition against everyone in the federation’s best judgment

What did he think would happen? not everyone on Romulus is a punk on a bus

 

[fireproof78]

He did go to Romulus on his own volition against everyone in the federation’s best judgment

What did he think would happen? not everyone on Romulus is a punk on a bus

It's more the hoping Sela caught him and put him in a dungeon that causes me to raise the old Vulcanian eyebrow.

 

[BillJ]

It's more the hoping Sela caught him and put him in a dungeon that causes me to raise the old Vulcanian eyebrow.

Star Trek is moving into comedy, who’s to say pornography isn’t next?!

 

[fireproof78]

Star Trek is moving into comedy, who’s to say pornography isn’t next?!

IDIC I guess.

 

[1001001]

There is a ton of Star Trek porn out there.



So I'm told...

 

[fireproof78]

Historical documents...

 

[Citiprime]

There is a ton of Star Trek porn out there.



So I'm told...

There’s a TNG one that’s a fairly good production, which is funny since the usual joke is that most people don’t watch porn for the story.

But you could tell the people who made it are fans and know Star Trek and were using like Memory Alpha deep cut information about the characters in the porno.

 

[Commander Troi]

 

[Shawnster]

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It's about the return of Tasha Yar after she gave birth to Sela and escaped her Romulan captors.

Or is it?

The entire movie, minus the porn scenes, is available on YouTube.

 

[Tenacity]

There is a ton of Star Trek porn out there.

Outside of the porn, some of the stories, acting and make-up are surprisingly good

 

[TREK_GOD_1]

Everyone’s arcs were satisfactorily completed in Star Trek 4

everything that came after was unnecessary

including but not limited to Kirk's death in Generations

Agreed. That was a desperate, "passing the torch" move in an attempt to put the big boy pants on a series which--apparently--failed to do that with seven TV seasons. The dirty little secret is that the TNG movies failed to do that, too.

and Spock’s out-of-nowhere obsession with reunifications both with the Klingons in six and the Romulans in TNG (and his issues with his father that were also resolved in four somehow were revived also in TNG)

Good point. Who cared about reunification? Spock was such an obvious act of baiting both TOS fans and media attention to a series which--by that time in its run--should've been able to define itself apart from the most popular production in the franchise.

 

[Commander Troi]

Outside of the porn, some of the stories, acting and make-up are surprisingly good

But how's the porn?

 

[Phoenix219]

Star Trek is moving into comedy, who’s to say pornography isn’t next?!

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[at Quark's]

And I would have an iconic funny line with Kirk commenting on Picard's chair. Something like MY chair was never this comfortable... Or Bones would have loved it that they finally had a chair for him..... Something. Lol.

I could see him say something like 'this chair's too comfortable!' A captain's chair should always keep you slightly on edge!

 

[Phoenix219]

I could see him say something like 'this chair's too comfortable!' A captain's chair should always keep you slightly on edge!

And every time I read one of our comments, I can HEAR Shatner's movie-era voice. SO distinct.

 

[cooleddie74]

"You guys have better chairs than I ever did. Well...except for one."

 

[Tallguy]

"You guys have better chairs than I ever did. Well...except for one."

Cut to Worf.