What are your controversial Star Trek opinions?

[Shat Happens]

And if it didn’t take 20 minutes.

What an exaggeration. The music track for the scene is 6min altogether and it also scores some dialogue between Kirk and the moustached guy. The Enterprise part alone is half that.

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For comparison, the analogous scene in the 2009 movie they felt necessary to speed up is 2min40

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[fireproof78]

2009 movie they felt necessary to speed up is 2min40

Excellent scene and track.

 

[Coops]

I personally always cringe a little whenever Trek does an 'on contemporary Earth' episode. SNWs 'Tomorrow and Tomorrow and Tomorrow' wasn't too bad but even that had it's moments (Kirk gets stuck in a door like Buddy in Elf!! ha ha ha).

It's probably just me but whenever I see a member of Star Fleet throw on a pair of Levi's I just KNOW it's going to be a long episode.

 

[Citiprime]

As someone who became a fan of Trek back in the 90s, what always intrigued me about TMP is how odd it seems. It sticks out as feeling like nothing else that has the Star Trek moniker attached to it. It doesn't feel like TOS or any of the other movies featuring the TOS or TNG casts. And at least TOS and the red-coat movie eras have been acknowledged by the other shows and movies. The TMP-era just lays out there like a thing people try to go around and forget about.

It's this odd duck that gets included in the mix and that people either have learned to love or find moments they really like in-between a lot of stuff they don't.

I can see how people find it boring or plodding. But I always find it fascinating in its choices as sort of an experiment in a different way the Trek formula could have gone, and choices that just didn't work or seem off. Like when Kirk orders them to go to "Warp 0.5," I'm always like doesn't he mean "full impulse" lol.

Also, another thing that always gets me and they seem to have figured out and fixed for Wrath of Khan is Spock's position and station. To me, in TMP, Spock's station dwarfs Kirk's captain's chair and looks more "commanding" behind Kirk. Offsetting it to the left in Wrath of Khan not only matches the position he takes in TOS, but also makes Spock look more as supplementing Kirk instead of lording over Kirk's shoulder.

 

[ananta]

I love the scenes in TMP where the Enterprise drifts through the V’Ger cloud. The visuals and music are just glorious. This film is a gem if you embrace the glacial pace and just let it wash over you. It’s psychedelic and meditative.

 

[Shat Happens]

You guys made me want to rewatch TMP but I cant right now. Maybe I'll listen to the soundtrack

 

[SCE2Aux]

I love the scenes in TMP where the Enterprise drifts through the V’Ger cloud. The visuals and music are just glorious. This film is a gem if you embrace the glacial pace and just let it wash over you. It’s psychedelic and meditative.

Its slower pace and subject matter lends the film a sense of grandeur that other films just don't have imho. That, and the movie's incredible design aesthetic (So much of what was made influenced Trek for decades afterwards...) makes TMP my favorite movie.

Wanna controversial opinion? I think TMP's Starfleet uniforms were among the best in the franchise!

 

[Tallguy]

And at least TOS and the red-coat movie eras have been acknowledged by the other shows and movies. The TMP-era just lays out there like a thing people try to go around and forget about.

TMP:
Kirk is an Admiral.
The Enterprise was refit.
Starfleet HQ is in San Francisco. (I believe that opening matte was in at least an episode of Voyager)
Bumpy headed Klingons and "spray it don't say it" Klingon language
The Vulcan language
Kholinar
Freaking drydocks.
Shuttle decks with force fields
Azteking (and we can't escape it even in the JJ verse)

 

[F. King Daniel]

Every Trek has done a version of the flyby of the Enterprise from TMP. Just quicker The Lower Decks one was funny.

 

[Farscape One]

I personally always cringe a little whenever Trek does an 'on contemporary Earth' episode. SNWs 'Tomorrow and Tomorrow and Tomorrow' wasn't too bad but even that had it's moments (Kirk gets stuck in a door like Buddy in Elf!! ha ha ha).

It's probably just me but whenever I see a member of Star Fleet throw on a pair of Levi's I just KNOW it's going to be a long episode.

Time travel in general has been overdone.

 

[at Quark's]

Time travel in general has been overdone.

Agreed. If only someone could travel back to, say, 1996 and tell the producers to not overuse it ....

 

[Coops]

I think we can blame The One With The Wales for all the time travelling, Assignment Earth was great but it’s that movie that inspired producers to crowbar one contemporary episode into almost every season .

 

[1001001]

I think we can blame The One With The Wales

 

[Tallguy]

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[Commander Troi]

 

[cooleddie74]

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[Coops]

<sigh> I'm not going to blame my phone again, it's time I started taking responsibility. Or checking before posting, one of the two.

And now I'm wondering why there's never been any Welsh crew? "Captain Dai Jones of the USS Blaenau-Ffestiniog"

 

[at Quark's]

^There's so many (former) countries we've never seen a crew, or even an individual of.

 

[Tallguy]

<sigh> I'm not going to blame my phone again, it's time I started taking responsibility. Or checking before posting, one of the two.

And now I'm wondering why there's never been any Welsh crew? "Captain Dai Jones of the USS Blaenau-Ffestiniog"

Do we not count

?