What are your controversial Star Trek opinions?

[fireproof78]

That doesn't sound very utopian.

 

[Nerys Myk]

That doesn't sound very utopian.

I can live with that.

 

[1001001]

No more prequels!

Go forward.

 

[at Quark's]

I was meaning the Stargazer guest-starring in a show following the Enterprise-C, but you know what, I like the idea. And frankly we have enough Enterprises and prides-of-the-fleet ships. About time we had a show set on a ship that was "an overworked, underpowered vessel, always on the verge of flying apart at the seams"; a ship that survives on its wits rather than its sheer firepower or unique fungus-powered engines...

In a way, I suppose DS9 was a bit like that, when it began. Understaffed, underequipped, some of its tech seriously below spec compared to Federation standards. It just didn't stay that way when the station became more and more important. Except, that it wasn't a ship but a station.

 

[Nerys Myk]

No more prequels!

Go forward.

Nah, Prequels can move things forward.

 

[Ovation]

No more prequels!

Go forward.

So only 33rd century and beyond?

 

[cooleddie74]

Discovery: The Next Generation does not instill me with too much confidence.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Discovery: The Next Generation does not instill me with too much confidence.

That's what we said in 1987.

 

[cooleddie74]

And for much of Season 1 those who said it were kinda right.

 

[at Quark's]

Discovery: The Next Generation does not instill me with too much confidence.

Probably still going to be better than Picard: The Next Generation.

 

[cooleddie74]

Probably still going to be better than Picard: The Next Generation.

TNG Season 1 outtakes or early costume test shots were better than PIC Season 2.

 

[Nerys Myk]

And for much of Season 1 those who said it were kinda right.

 

[Macintosh]

That doesn't sound very utopian.

Utopias aren't interesting. The interesting bits happen at the frayed edges where the utopia butts up against non-utopias. Look at the Culture novels of Iain M Banks.

 

[fireproof78]

Utopias aren't interesting. The interesting bits happen at the frayed edges where the utopia butts up against non-utopias. Look at the Culture novels of Iain M Banks.

I understand.

But given the ongoing laments against the supposedly anti utopian attitude of current Trek productions this idea amuses me to no end.

 

[Macintosh]

I understand.

But given the ongoing laments against the supposedly anti utopian attitude of current Trek productions this idea amuses me to no end.

But many of classic Trek's finest instalments are about that utopian vision getting rattled and having to justify itself. Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country. "The Best of Both Worlds" ("Will this be the end of our civilisation? Turn the page"). The threat of being drawn into the quagmire of a Klingon civil war in "Redemption". The Maquis. The entire Dominion War. "Earth is a paradise", we are told, at least by the 24th century. Which is precisely why we spend such little time there and instead out on the frontier, except when that paradise is under threat, or is being contrasted in some way.

 

[Nyotarules]

Narration unfortunately breaks the fourth wall. Might as well make it a musical. "Stargazer!"

And yet we have the narration of the Captain's log since TOS....

 

[fireproof78]

But many of classic Trek's finest instalments are about that utopian vision getting rattled and having to justify itself. Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country. "The Best of Both Worlds" ("Will this be the end of our civilisation? Turn the page"). The threat of being drawn into the quagmire of a Klingon civil war in "Redemption". The Maquis. The entire Dominion War. "Earth is a paradise", we are told, at least by the 24th century. Which is precisely why we spend such little time there and instead out on the frontier, except when that paradise is under threat, or is being contrasted in some way.

Agreed.

It makes it more interesting to explore all facets of human drama.

 

[BillJ]

No more prequels!

Go forward.

Moving forward by going backwards is the way of the Trekkie.

Besides, anything pre-Discovery would be a prequel.

 

[Commander Troi]

Narration unfortunately breaks the fourth wall. Might as well make it a musical. "Stargazer!"

What has the 4th wall done for me lately?

Besides, I can hear it now... "Star... GAZ-ER! Gazing on the stars..."

 

[Lord Garth]

So only 33rd century and beyond?

I'm really not seeing the problem with this.