What are your controversial Star Trek opinions?
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Same. I know an effective hangover prevention, but it takes some effort to do properly, and there's still the grogginess and the bad taste in my mouth.
And besides, I'm prone to depression, so it would be easy for me to become an alcoholic, and even more dysfunctional than I already am.
I only drink one beer per day.
This one is for May 29th, 2272.
That will coincide with the refit of the Enterprise 1701 into her appearance just before the V'Ger incident.
Hmmm...
Where were you when Voyager 6 was launched?
Or a moist Trip in his underwear again
While I'm here, I might as well leave a related controversial Trek opinion: I love "Precious Cargo"!
I think it's a fun bit of fluff (especially T'Pol as the judicial administrator), and Padma Lakshmi's performance sold me on her character being a stuck-up, molly-coddled, and rather naive princess (plus, all the times when she's trying desperately not to smirk or laugh always brings a smirk or grin to my face too). It's one of my most rewatched Trek episodes because it never fails to cheer me up.
That post is definitely the embodiment of a phrase my grandfather would always say... "Different strokes for different folks."
I'll agree that "FAIR HAVEN" is better than "SPIRIT FOLK" by quite a lot, because it at least tackles the subject of Janeway being lonely at the top.
I am with you on really enjoying "A NIGHT IN SICKBAY". I'm a dog lover too, so I understand Archer's feelings here. And it was fun getting those glimpses at life in Phlox's sickbay. Plus, one of my wife's favorite lines in the series is 'one paw in beagle heaven.' You got to admit, that's a damned funny line.
I am with you on really enjoying "A NIGHT IN SICKBAY". I'm a dog lover too, so I understand Archer's feelings here. And it was fun getting those glimpses at life in Phlox's sickbay. Plus, one of my wife's favorite lines in the series is 'one paw in beagle heaven.' You got to admit, that's a damned funny line.
"A Night in Sickbay" is still an episode I don't like but after all this time and episodes like "Precious Cargo," "Harbinger" and "TATV..." it's no longer one of the bottom two. It has some redeeming and entertaining moments.
Same. That's why it was easy for me to just drop it altogether.
Neelix is another of my wife's favorite characters. Very versatile character, and was better used when he was written more seriously. Ethan Phillips was a great performer who was on point when given good material.
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The problem with A Night In Sickbay isn't that it's a particularly bad episode of Trek. The problem is it totally destroys my ability to respect Jonathan Archer.
I really enjoyed Neelix in "Mortal Coil" and "Jetrel".
Agreed.
I also thought he was good in "RISE", "ONCE UPON A TIME" and "MEMORIAL".
I also thought he was good in "RISE", "ONCE UPON A TIME" and "MEMORIAL".
Neelix was best after Kes was no longer on the series. When they didn't have to play into the romance angle of the character he became a lot more tolerable.
Honestly, I agree.
And, as a whole, VOY holds up much better now as fun, interesting comfort food than it did during it's initial run on UPN. I just finished my first full watch of the series (I had only seen about 1/3 of the episodes before) and I enjoyed it a LOT more than how I felt about it back in the late 90's. Even the episodes that were supposed to be "weaker" I found redeeming qualities in.
Yeah. I'd honestly put it above TNG in terms of rewatchability.
I honestly can't argue that, either. My binge re-watch/first watch of VOY came right on the heels of my finishing out a re-watch of TNG, and my take on it is:
1. TNG has a much better cast
2. TNG has far more "gem / 5-star" episodes than VOY
but...
3. VOY has far less dull, plodding, mundane episodes than TNG
4. VOY is far more re-watchable and engaging on the whole than TNG is on the whole.
VOY had no chance of capturing the heights that TNG occasionally achieved...but it also is, on the whole, just a more fun Star Trek show.
A few years back it was killing it in the Netflix “ratings.” Pre covid, I think, and ppl were wondering why. If you ignore the wasted premise, I find it a better show than TNG. Comfort, episodic, Berman-era Trek.
I call it “stupid tv,” like when I watch reruns on MeTV et al. Current tv is so . . . Hard. I’m in a jazz/funk trio that always plays hard music. I finally asked if we could play something I knew that wasn’t taxing. Like damn, PIC’s plot, so many threads, and other stuff I can’t mention. Fairly mindless stuff — I get why ppl would come home after their factory jobs or at the office, eat dinner and veg out, y’know? Not that VOY is mindless, mind you, it’s just less demanding. Maybe that’s why I don’t watch tv except for Trek out of loyalty and Mando because of its long quiet stretches. I like his subdued manner of speaking,
Edit: and no Data! He’s so annoying and not funny. Granted, you get Neelix though.
I call it “stupid tv,” like when I watch reruns on MeTV et al. Current tv is so . . . Hard. I’m in a jazz/funk trio that always plays hard music. I finally asked if we could play something I knew that wasn’t taxing. Like damn, PIC’s plot, so many threads, and other stuff I can’t mention. Fairly mindless stuff — I get why ppl would come home after their factory jobs or at the office, eat dinner and veg out, y’know? Not that VOY is mindless, mind you, it’s just less demanding. Maybe that’s why I don’t watch tv except for Trek out of loyalty and Mando because of its long quiet stretches. I like his subdued manner of speaking,
Edit: and no Data! He’s so annoying and not funny. Granted, you get Neelix though.
I agree on everything you've said here. Especially the bolded.
Voyager also has a lot more humour than TNG.
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