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What are your controversial Star Trek opinions?

Every one's list will be different. Every one has different triggers that take them out of an episode. I know for myself I have a high tolerance for made up technobabble but a low tolerance for bad actual science (like not knowing how evolution or black holes work). And give me a million campy episodes like Spock's Brain or harmless clip shows like Shades of Grey before one character ruining episode like Dear Doctor or Federation ruining episode like Author, Author.
 
like not knowing how evolution or black holes work
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Actually, I felt "AUTHOR, AUTHOR" painted The Doctor as a douche in the first half. Everyone on the ship... his friends and colleagues, all asked him, pleaded with him to just do some revisions so it doesn't paint the crew in such a bad light. Yet he didn't budge. It was only after an extreme trick with Paris altering the novel that he finally got the message.

Like "VIRTUOSO" in season 6, it really damaged his character because it took him to new selfish heights.
 
ike not knowing how evolution or black holes work)
That's an old tried and true Trek trope.
Actually, I felt "AUTHOR, AUTHOR" painted The Doctor as a douche in the first half. Everyone on the ship... his friends and colleagues, all asked him, pleaded with him to just do some revisions so it doesn't paint the crew in such a bad light. Yet he didn't budge. It was only after an extreme trick with Paris altering the novel that he finally got the message.

Like "VIRTUOSO" in season 6, it really damaged his character because it took him to new selfish heights.
Yeah, those episodes I caught on rerun on UPN came across as very poorly.
 
Actually, I felt "AUTHOR, AUTHOR" painted The Doctor as a douche in the first half. Everyone on the ship... his friends and colleagues, all asked him, pleaded with him to just do some revisions so it doesn't paint the crew in such a bad light. Yet he didn't budge. It was only after an extreme trick with Paris altering the novel that he finally got the message.

Like "VIRTUOSO" in season 6, it really damaged his character because it took him to new selfish heights.

Oh yeah, they let the Doctor get away with a lot of stuff and he looks like a big time jerk doing it.

I would say the episode where he has to hide in Seven’s Borg implants from the anti-hologram race and takes over her body would rope into this as well. Although Ryan knocked it outta the park acting like Picardo.
 
I don't think "BODY AND SOUL" really qualifies as character damaging, simply because he was forced into the situation. I do agree he did enjoy the sensations a little too much at first, but that can be understood since he never was able to taste or experience what we take for granted. And he did dial it back a bit when Seven asked him.

Agreed that Jeri mimicked Picardo perfectly there. Definitely a highlight performance. (Not to mention another solid directing outing for Robert Duncan McNeill.)
 
Actually, I felt "AUTHOR, AUTHOR" painted The Doctor as a douche in the first half. Everyone on the ship... his friends and colleagues, all asked him, pleaded with him to just do some revisions so it doesn't paint the crew in such a bad light. Yet he didn't budge. It was only after an extreme trick with Paris altering the novel that he finally got the message.

Like "VIRTUOSO" in season 6, it really damaged his character because it took him to new selfish heights.

Oh yeah, they let the Doctor get away with a lot of stuff and he looks like a big time jerk doing it.

I would say the episode where he has to hide in Seven’s Borg implants from the anti-hologram race and takes over her body would rope into this as well. Although Ryan knocked it outta the park acting like Picardo.

It bothered me not so much that the Doctor did these kinds of things but that he did them more than once. At the end of Virtuoso, it felt like the Doctor understood that Seven was upset because of how he'd behaved but he didn't worry about his friends feelings in Author, Author either. In Revulsion, the Doctor learned that just because someone is a hologram it doesn't mean they aren't a murdering sociopath but in Flesh and Blood he had forgotten that lesson.
 
It bothered me not so much that the Doctor did these kinds of things but that he did them more than once. At the end of Virtuoso, it felt like the Doctor understood that Seven was upset because of how he'd behaved but he didn't worry about his friends feelings in Author, Author either. In Revulsion, the Doctor learned that just because someone is a hologram it doesn't mean they aren't a murdering sociopath but in Flesh and Blood he had forgotten that lesson.
Continuity was out the window on Voyager if it fit the writer's story idea for it to be.
 
Yes. And thinking about the comment a few posts previous . . . I’ve never been hammered out of my skull. (Nor even really what you’d call drunk at all.) I wonder sometimes if I’m really missing something. It must feel really good. (?) Not really sure why I’ve avoided it.
 
Yes. And thinking about the comment a few posts previous . . . I’ve never been hammered out of my skull. (Nor even really what you’d call drunk at all.) I wonder sometimes if I’m really missing something. It must feel really good. (?) Not really sure why I’ve avoided it.

I stopped drinking years ago out of boredom more than anything else. If you can be happy within your own skin without it then you're doing good.

I don't mean it in an "on the wagon" way either. I've never had a drink problem. One day i just said, "no, not doing that anymore" and I didn't. It's been 15 or more years and I never even feel tempted. I've got seven bottles of expensive liquor sealed in my apartment and they'll probably never get drunk, they they are very pretty bottles so there's that.
 
I think I regret my comment as it might cause ppl paiful thoughts or memories. I was just thinking out loud, with someone comparing it to one’s first bite of cheesecake, something definitely good.

Our state went legalized weed, which I’ve never done either. I am a real nerd, never smoked anything ever, ha ha. But I know they make gummies and maybe I should try that, ppl say it feels so good.

I really don’t mind feeling good, and do wonder what I’m missing sometimes. The xanax they gave me so I could take an mri made me laugh as I was walking down the hall to it, I’ll say that as a pretty claustrophobic person.
 
Continuity was out the window on Voyager if it fit the writer'

Or the showrunners.

Yes. And thinking about the comment a few posts previous . . . I’ve never been hammered out of my skull. (Nor even really what you’d call drunk at all.) I wonder sometimes if I’m really missing something. It must feel really good. (?) Not really sure why I’ve avoided it.

You haven't missed anything particularly great. I average two or three drinks a week at most. I just remember that it's kind of normal to overindulge the first time.
 
Yes. And thinking about the comment a few posts previous . . . I’ve never been hammered out of my skull. (Nor even really what you’d call drunk at all.) I wonder sometimes if I’m really missing something. It must feel really good. (?) Not really sure why I’ve avoided it.

I do not like the taste.
 
You haven't missed anything particularly great. I average two or three drinks a week at most. I just remember that it's kind of normal to overindulge the first time.

That's pretty much where I'm at. I find, now that I'm in mid-40's for age...that there are two inescapable truths about my consumption of alcohol:

1. I enjoy alcoholic beverages more for the tastes (good wine, a favorite beer, a well-blended cocktail) than anything else.
2. If I have a number of drinks socially, I generally feel like shit in the morning...and it's not really a hang-over...I just feel like depressed and miserable mentally.

So...yeah...I don't really drink to get buzzed or hammered at all any longer.
 
That's pretty much where I'm at. I find, now that I'm in mid-40's for age...that there are two inescapable truths about my consumption of alcohol:

1. I enjoy alcoholic beverages more for the tastes (good wine, a favorite beer, a well-blended cocktail) than anything else.
2. If I have a number of drinks socially, I generally feel like shit in the morning...and it's not really a hang-over...I just feel like depressed and miserable mentally.

So...yeah...I don't really drink to get buzzed or hammered at all any longer.

I'm only a few years younger, but for the last 10+ years I've pretty much been "get a weird craft beer I never tried before when I go out to a nice dinner." Maybe two if I'm feeling wild. But I can go multiple years without drinking more than two in a single night.
 
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