What are your controversial Star Trek opinions?

[Farscape One]

For Trekkies...

"Let's Spock!"

 

[F. King Daniel]

Friends for me but I admit that reluctantly.

Wasn't DS9 going to be considered for an 8th season? I think I could have stood it if they toned down on the silliness. I felt like series finale was little rushed and I think there are some loose ends that really needed to be addressed more.

Well they did novels for like 20 years afterwards

 

[FormerLurker]

I like the early and middle seasons of Married With Children. Then something about the series changed during the eighth season. It's hard to put my finger on, but I feel like it suddenly became a lot dumber. Around the time of NO'MAAM. It's been waaaayyyy too long since I've watched it, so I can't get any more specific than that, but it's the impression I had Way Back When. I stopped watching I want to say right around the beginning of the 10th Season? IIRC, that's when Buck was replaced with Lucky and Peg's Mom and Zephram moved in? And when we found out who the CEO for the shoe store was...

... and I think I remember more than I thought! Oh yeah, and Bud's clothes were horrible during those seasons. It was like Eminem before Eminem was a thing.

Though I did like Al's buddy (the black guy) and the news reporter with the superlongridiculous name.

Somewhere around the time of Peg's "dream" pregnancy, the producers realized Kelly was being written and portrayed as learning disabled (dyslexic, specifically), and they didn't want that dynamic on the show, so they dumbed her way down instead. I wouldn't be surprised if they dumbed down the whole cast as a consequence.

 

[cooleddie74]

Kelly actually started the series as fairly smart but just a tramp into heavy metal music and bad boys. She gradually became an idiot and that eventually turned into the trope that she couldn't think her way out of a paper bag.

 

[tesral]

Kelly actually started the series as fairly smart but just a tramp into heavy metal music and bad boys. She gradually became an idiot and that eventually turned into the trope that she couldn't think her way out of a paper bag.

Gotta keep the girls dumb and round heeled. I found the whole show too stupid to live.

 

[Amaris]

"Hi Al, did you miss me?"
"With every bullet so far."

 

[cooleddie74]

And perhaps the greatest moment in Married...With Children history:

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[Amaris]

And perhaps the greatest moment in Married...With Children history:

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It's the nihilistic laugh at the end that sells it.

 

[cooleddie74]

He has nothing left to lose and only sweet relief to gain.

 

[Amaris]

He has nothing left to lose and only sweet relief to gain.

I swear sometimes we're all Al Bundy.

 

[cooleddie74]

The Mods probably feel sometimes like they are.

 

[1001001]

 

[Swedish Borg]

I never watched that show. Is it any good?

 

[cooleddie74]

Yes. Except for the slow fizzle to the series' final episodes. Season 11 is the worst by any measure. Writing. Comic delivery. Characters. The final season was when the writing was on the wall, the original producers were no longer involved and it just sort of coasted to an end with (mostly) weak episodes.

 

[Coops]

Can we please stop all this nonsense about 'Married With Children'!

And, instead, enjoy Ed O'Neills finest work...

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[cooleddie74]

Back to Trek:

VOY Season 1's first handful of episodes were the strongest freshman offerings of any Trek series since TOS and that was more than 28 years earlier. VOY was - thus far - one of only two Trek series that started stronger than it ended.

 

[Swedish Borg]

Back to Trek:

VOY Season 1's first handful of episodes were the strongest freshman offerings of any Trek series since TOS and that was more than 28 years earlier. VOY was - thus far - one of only two Trek series that started stronger than it ended.

Actually, Voyager's weakest episodes are in Season 2, IMO.

The awful "Threshold" for example. I mean even the ending is kinda psychotic-like Janeway speaking of her children and not having any second thought about leaving them on the planet. I wonder why the doc never tried to turn them into human babies, using the same bullshit procedure he used to return Janeway and Paris to their human form?

Yeah, that was some crappy episode, on so many levels!!!

 

[cooleddie74]

Season 2 can be summed up with: "Everything wishes it were 'Death Wish.' "

 

[Paul755]

Lursa and B’Etor dying was worse than the E-D getting destroyed in Generations.

I still think there was a good story that could have been told on DS9 with Worf and Martok having to team up with them on a mission during the War.

 

[dupersuper]

Back to Trek:

VOY Season 1's first handful of episodes were the strongest freshman offerings of any Trek series since TOS and that was more than 28 years earlier. VOY was - thus far - one of only two Trek series that started stronger than it ended.

It certainly had some good ones: Caretaker, The Phage, Faces, Eye of the Needle. Prime Factors, State of Flux...but the second episode was Parallax: a warning of ridiculously bad Voyager "science" to come.