What are your controversial Star Trek opinions?

Discussion in 'General Trek Discussion' started by Amasov, Jun 20, 2020.

  1. Farscape One

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    Actually, Lavelle wasn't the preferred choice, per Riker's dialogue during the poker game. He wasn't 'entirely convinced' he was worth promoting at that time because, among other things, he seemed to be too ingratiating.

    And Sito was likely the only Bajoran officer on the ship at that time, and a Bajoran 'prisoner' was needed to maintain the Cardassian's cover. But Picard needed to make sure she could handle such an assignment.
     
  2. gweeps

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    I kinda wish someone other than Mulgrew had been picked for Janeway. Maybe we wouldn't have got some of those awful holodeck storylines.
     
  3. Macintosh

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    Someone else was picked – Geneviève Bujold. All the pre-Mulgrew footage indicates that Mulgrew really was hugely, hugely better.
     
  4. gweeps

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    I know this.
     
  5. Guy Gardener

    Guy Gardener Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    You gotta change the writers room.

    Which happened... A lot.

    Saw Tim Russ on a youtube, the other day, and he said the Geneviève was so bad, that the producers considered replacing her with a Man-Captain.
     
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  6. Guy Gardener

    Guy Gardener Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    But Susan Gibney!

    I saw Susan on a The Larry Sanders Show rerun a few days ago, but I did not recognize her from Star Trek, however I was drawn to her, I assumed that... WTF is The Fearing Mind?

     
  7. Finn

    Finn Bad Batch of TrekBBS Admiral

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    They don't need to follow canon. It isn't really something they have to "respect". Even TOS contradicted itself.
     
  8. Serveaux

    Serveaux Fleet Admiral Premium Member

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    Voyager is a bore, pretty much from beginning to end. An SUV takes a wrong turn and everyone frets about being lost in a neighborhood that must be strange and dangerous because the people look different and dress funny. Mulgrew is as interesting as dry, toasted Wonder Bread.
     
  9. Farscape One

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    Add butter? :lol:
     
  10. Tallguy

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    Then who is four fried chickens and a Coke?
     
  11. eschaton

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    The weirdest thing about VOY is I've never seen a show jettison its original premise so quickly.

    I mean, I know it was mostly due to BTS conflict - that the showrunners wanted to try something new, but UPN was risk-averse, particularly after the somewhat mixed reaction to early DS9, and just wanted TNG 2.0. But it's shocking that they spent so much time setting up the Maquis - planting the seeds in TNG's Journey's End and Preemptive Strike, and a two-parter late in Season 2 of DS9 - only to basically completely neuter any Federation/Maquis conflict past the pilot of Voyager.

    This is just the most extreme example, but there are of course others - like usually downplaying the idea that there were any issues which could be cause from being far from repair/resupply, and finding various ways to include Alpha/Beta quadrant plots over time rather than explore something new.

    The need of the series to have "recurring" enemies like the Kazon was also pretty head-scratching, given the ship was generally speaking traveling in a straight line across tens of thousands of light years. Alien of the week made total sense under these circumstances. I really wish that VOY had done more to flesh out the secondary crew on the ship - added more people like the Wildmans and Vorik who we would see frequently, not not every week. But if anything, the show moved away from this over time.
     
  12. Serveaux

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    Pike?

    Hell, Ortega. :lol:

    Kirk's a quarter pound cheeseburger.
     
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  13. Zapp Brannigan

    Zapp Brannigan Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    I like the Voyager holodeck episodes. They show that the crew has actual hobbies and interests outside of work (Janeway and Gothic romance novels, Paris and retro automobiles, etc.).
     
  14. Tallguy

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    @eschaton I feel like I could have written that myself. Especially the Kazon part.

    As I've said often, I feel like no small part of the new Battlestar Galactica was Ron Moore's response to Voyager. "HERE'S a ship in peril and low on supplies, folks!"
     
  15. Tallguy

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  16. Richard S. Ta

    Richard S. Ta Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    I think that’s something to lay at the writer’s doors, not Mulgrew’s.
     
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  17. eschaton

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    Trek producers just love an excuse to use cheap sets and props just hanging around on the Paramount back lot.
     
  18. Ianburns252

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    If in doubt, the Tholians did it
     
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    CarnelianClout Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    Enterprise was one of my favorite series in Star Trek, by far.
     
  20. Ovation

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    It’s my third, behind TOS and SNW.
     
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