What are your controversial Star Trek opinions?

So how long do you think SNW goes before Pike has his moment of history that he must do, the bit we glimpsed in Disco?

 

Ten years.

 

About six. SNW is now in 2259 and probably about to enter 2260 so we're looking at six years until the training ship accident that cripples him.

 

That sounds like a reasonable length of time and given we don't do 22 episode seasons any more... Sounds perfect

 

I still think SNW doesn't end with Pike's injuries. I think we'll see what happens to Pike after "The Menagerie". I'm calling it now.

 

I think I would love for the finale to be a bookend to The Menagerie, showing how the rest of Pike's crew was involved in the effort to bring Pike to Talos IV. Sort of like how Trials and Tribble-ations was set up, except you wouldn't actually have to use old clips as the characters are already being recast. Just recreate certain scenes with the new actors.

 

I do love how that episode in Disco tied into the old series.. It was near perfect and I liked the casting for Vina, that's also my controversial opinion for today

 

Here's one. I'd rather see a Prodigy Film than Yet Another Reboot. It's something they'd never do, but it would be so outside the box that they should. And there wouldn't be the pressure to make $500 Million or more.

 

I believe the production also said that they weren't going to adhere to previous Trek's one season equals a year of in-universe time.

 

Honestly, I could see it ending by ignoring the accident altogether. I mean, we know what happens to Pike and how he gets back to Talos. Why retell it or bring back footage from The Menagerie. Just end it with either Pike and co flying off to their next adventure. Or have a small scene with Pike turning over command to Kirk and saying goodbye to Spock.

 

Ooh that would invalidate the time crystal vision.... Perfect, also it would anger rabid fans

 

I’m not saying that doesn’t happen to Pike. It has to happen.

I’m just saying that maybe at the end of the show they don’t leave it on a downer. Don’t end it with a crippled Pike in one form or another.

 

They could cop out of it at the end by saying: Parallel reality in which it never happened!

(Though I suppose that would make a lot of fans angry after having watched the show for so many years expecting the show to lead up to that point).

 

Maybe this is simply an observation, not a controversial opinion, but it strikes me that Star Trek as a whole is no longer associated with an optimistic view of the future, it’s just run of the mill entertainment. No one is inspired to make the Roddenberry vision a reality.

 

Much as I love DS9, they started loosening their attitude to that vision in that series. At least to the extent that 'people will do desperate things in desperate situations, Federation ideology or not'.

Then again, humanity was stiflingly perfect by the time of (early) TNG.

 

Because Star Trek is trying hard to just be it's own thing and not be about our humanity or it's future. People would rather hold on to the perfectionism of TNG rather than believe it is possible like TOS.

 

SNW should end with the accident; it serves as a coda to his active life in Starfleet, and a nod toward his well-known future, so there would be a mix of tragedy and hope at the end of it all.

This.

TNG set the looking-down-the-nose-at-everyone approach to ST that's infected most ST productions ever since. Instead of creating a universe where the notion of a better life / worldview is something to aspire to, yet the reality of a dangerous, often brutal universe is what one must deal with (TOS), the heartless, lifeless Berman era came off like a political party convention, where its guests collectively inform you of the "correct" manner of thought, action, and personal destiny.

That was not Star Trek.

 

We had survived the late 20th c. Peoples of earth were cooperating. There was hope.

That was the vision.

People were still people though. Far from perfect. Far from living utopia.

 

I only notice this holier-than-thou attitude in TNG, and then, most pronounced in early TNG. In my view, it had been dialed back in DS9 and VOY, already.

The characters had a certain disdain for earlier eras in those series, but we also see that in TOS - at least in the movies. (For example, Kirk calling 20th century San Fransisco 'An extremely primitive and paranoid culture.').

 

We will never see a return to that extreme form of optimism in STAR TREK (or fiction in general) ever again.

9/11 made sure of that.

At best, we'll see little glimmers of it.