Discussion in 'General Trek Discussion' started by Amasov, Jun 20, 2020.
Chakotay wasn't exactly a sterling example of character evolution either.
He was such a bad, boring, dull boyfriend he turned Seven of Nine gay
Sequoia trees have survived unchanged since the Jurassic.
Wow, Sisko changed Janeway's hairstyle? Is there anything that guy can't do?
That's like saying conversion therapy works. I think Seven just naturally swung both ways.
Not of he could chop the Bun of Steel from the Chuck Norris of Star Trek from 60,000 kLY away. Clearly, his time in the wormhole gave him some interesting new abilities.
Janeway should have gone bald. Several other power figures of the era were. Picard. Sisko. The Borg Queen.
It's only the visual/casting that makes Code of Honor racist. Cast a variety of ethnicities in those roles, or make them visually alien (like reptilian or avian or something) and it's an acceptable episode. If one were to just read the transcript without any visual preconceptions, one would not find it racist.
Like you pointed out, the episode is a victim of miscasting.
Kathryn Janeway sent death back to hell without her, made fear itself afraid, spanked the Borg, deleted the Krenim timeship, and had the Maquis eating out of her hand like your granny's pet Pomeranian. She did not need to bow to the whims of Starfleet captain fashion.
Besides, the only bald woman in Trek canon was under an oath of celibacy. Kathryn decided that wasn't her thing.
Deep Dish Nine is not "the best Star Trek series"; furthermore, it is questionable as to whether it even qualifies as a "true" Star Trek entry.
DS9 as the best series? That’s debatable.
Whether it’s a true Star Trek entry is not open to argument. It is a fact. On the other hand, “Ömer the Tourist”, while looking like Star Trek, is not a true entry.
Is that a series about pizza or something?
There was a thread recently where people got to rank the series and Deep Space Nine ended up at #1, so that's what Trek BBS considers to be the best at least. Personally I consider it to be basically TNG, Part 2, as it continues story threads like the Klingons, Romulans, Cardassians, Maquis etc. If you want to see what happens next in the Star Trek setting after All Good Things, DS9 is the series to watch. So it's a bit weird to me when people say it's not Star Trek, as I'm kind of still waiting for another Trek series to get on its level.
Subjective, and not controversial at all.
Definitely controversial. Why don't you enlighten us what constitutes "true Trek"?
Deep Dish Nine is the worst food-based porn I've ever seen. And I watched it three times.
Bear in mind that opinion of mine has nothing to do production values, writing and acting; if I didn't like the show on its own merits (that is, divorced from its title/legacy), I wouldn't give it the time of day. That said, there are some episodes which embody the spirit of Star Trek.
A Sequoia isn't as wooden as Robert Beltran tho'.
He was Rom's son though. Traditional Ferengi values never really seemed to phase him much, and his Moogie loved him just the way he was. I can see him not making knowing how to read a priority.
Beltran acts just fine when given actual work to do. Cast a man as a piece of scenery, and you're probably not going to get much of a performance. Same thing with Wang, Phillips, and Lien.
Hmm. You don't say. Well, I have to have an informed opinion...
That won't be controversial at all...
I don’t think the “wooden acting/characters” of VOY are really any different than TNG.
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