What are your controversial Star Trek opinions?

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  1. Gingerbread Demon

    Gingerbread Demon I love Star Trek Discovery Premium Member

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    Don't Mormons believe in aliens?
     
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    It’s more important that aliens believe in themselves.
     
  3. Gingerbread Demon

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    That's true low self esteem is bad for our alien brethren
     
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  4. Commander Troi

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    Yes.
     
  5. Gingerbread Demon

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    If I recall correctly their prophet came from another planet.
     
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    Joseph Smith? He was born in Vermont.
     
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    Same thing. :angel:
     
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  8. Gingerbread Demon

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    Well that's hardly alien now is it? I thought Mormons had aliens in their religion
     
  9. Nerys Myk

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    It's a Christ based religion. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. God, prophets, angels and those sorts of thing.
     
  10. Imaus

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    Their cosmology is honestly sort of neat.

    Mormon to a T? Go to the highest afterlife.

    Mormon but waiver? Not Mormon but good? Second afterlife.

    Shitty in life? Lowest afterlife, but it's still a rad place.

    Jesus and Satan are spirit brothers. We're all spirit brothers. We're all here to be tested.

    And eventually you too basically can become a god? It gets iffy at that point.

    But that sort of dnd level cosmology Could be nice, especially against whatever Great Awakening was going on at the time with brimstone and eternal damnation.

    Sure there's the outer darkness where Satan is, and apparently I guess all Atheists who deny the Holy Spirit or whatever? But it's cold and just devoid of love and light than an eternal sadist party.
     
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  11. fireproof78

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    I find cosmology in Judaism and Christianity incredibly fascinating. Mormonism took some interesting ideas too from that material.
     
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  12. oldtrekkie

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    If the Christians are right shouldn't there be a Christ avatar on each planet that has developed a sapient lifeform?
     
  13. fireproof78

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    I imagine so, yes. But, that's my own personal viewpoint after studying.
     
  14. CorporalCaptain

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    Well, there's certainly one on 892-IV. Or, at least, it seems that there was one, in the more general sense of "an embodiment (as of a concept or philosophy) often in a person" [https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/avatar].
     
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  15. 1001001

    1001001 Serial Canon Violator Moderator

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    I fear we’re straying pretty far from Star Trek at this point…

    :lol:
     
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  16. fireproof78

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    Star what now? ;)


    Well, here's my most recent opinion-sex and sexuality are rarely additive in Trek and are better off being avoided. Use it spicy seasoning.
     
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  17. CorporalCaptain

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    Sorry, in case it was clear, I was referring to the TOS episode "Bread and Circuses."

     
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  18. Gingerbread Demon

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    But I find Christians rarely if ever speak about other worlds or what might be there.
     
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  19. fireproof78

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    That's funny. That was much of my high school and college discussions with my Christian friends, teachers and mentors.
     
  20. Tim Thomason

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    Omega IV also had a Bible (an actual prop opened up to the Old Testament), although we can't really judge if it had a Jesus. The immense similarities implies that it may have (and therefore, also Miri's world and Beta III and other parallel Earths). Messianic figures, and heroic martyrs exist in other cultures (Vulcans' Surak, Klingons' Kahless, Bajorans' Ben Sisko), so there's a parallel here in cultural development it seems. Of course, there are also "Jesus figures" before and after Jesus in Earth cultures too, if we're using such loose definitions.

    Star Trek features loads of alien interference in primitive cultures, and it's not out of the question that Jesus might be one of these, similar to Lucifer (Lucien) and all the Greek Gods, Native American sky spirits, and Kukulkan and who knows who else.