What are your controversial Star Trek opinions?

Discussion in 'General Trek Discussion' started by Amasov, Jun 20, 2020.

  1. MAGolding

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    It is correct to say that Iran has not always been a funamentalist Arab state. In fact, iran has never been a fundamentalist Arab state. Or any other sort of Arab state.

    Stating that Iran is or has been an Arab state is such a goofy historical statement that I can only assume that you write for various Star Trek productions and are responsible for some of the many erronious historical statements in various productions that make me think that Star Trek can only happen in an alternate universe where Earth history has been different from ours for thousands of years.
     
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  2. MAGolding

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    Bajor is obviously less than 500 light yers from Earth.

    Who or what is Grat?
     
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  3. MAGolding

    MAGolding Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    duplicate of #5123
     
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  4. Maurice

    Maurice Fact Trekker Premium Member

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    No Iran is not an Arab state, it's a Persian state, but it's also a fundamentalist Islamic state. If you're going to correct someone, why not actually explain instead of taking a potshot?
     
  5. dupersuper

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    ...It is?
     
  6. Ghouleddie74

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    Well, 500 light-years mean a six months trip for a ship as fast as Voyager (Warp 9.975 at top speed) However, it's obvious that Quark in his private ship didn't take six months to get to Earth, especially since the episode ends with Quark back at the station so that would mean that that sole episode lasted ONE YEAR! Something doesn't add up here.
     
  8. MAGolding

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    Science fiction fans - and especially science ficition writers - should try to learn the basics of "galactogrphy", the astronomical equivalent of geography, especially fans of space operas with interstellar travel.

    A very basic and limited introduction to astronomy and galactography would be reading a popular book about astronomy for the general public. Those books often include tables, such as tables with physical and orbital data of the planets tables of the constellations, lists of the nearest stars with data about them, and lists of the stars which appear brightest as seen from Earth, etc. And the lists of stars often include their distances from Earth in light years or parsecs.

    In the DS9 episode "Fascination":

    If Jake says that Regulus is 300 light years away, he is probably not being very precise. So we can guess that Bajor should be somewhere between 200 and 400 light yeers from Regulus. Since Jake was saying how far away Mardah went, he would be more likely to exaggerate than minimise the distance, so we might guess that Regulus is more likely to be between 200 and 300 light years from Bajor than it is to be between 300 and 400 light years.from Bajor.

    Anyway, Bajor is almost certainly somewhere between 200 and 400 light years from Regulus, and so it must be less than 500 light years from Earth.
     
  9. TIM Thomason

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    No, he made a valid point, and I immediately understood what he was saying without having to be fully chastised. Sometimes my American education shines through.

    Although, I'm not sure calling me a "Star Trek writer" was quite the terrible insult that Mr. Golding was going for.
     
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  10. Maurice

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    The post made a valid point only inasmuch as Iran is not an Arab state.
     
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  11. Cyanide Muffin

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    500 light years hell I thought you could see it from your back yard /s
     
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  12. Ghouleddie74

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    Colonial Governor Palin thought so.
     
  13. plynch

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    Off-topic. John Adams estimated the American War of Independence was supported by about 1/3 of British colonists.

    I wonder what percent of Iranians supported the fundamentalist revolution against the Shah? They were a very progressive country for that region. Though I know the Shah was oppressive and brutal. And supported by us.

    Now I wonder about Afghanistan. I suppose it is unknowable. I believe our attempts to remake it in our image were foolish. But before the Taliban it was far less repressive than they would have it be. So I wonder what percent of the people support the Taliban and/or their general fundamentalist aims.
     
  14. Vger23

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    ok, well anyway...
     
  15. Cyanide Muffin

    Cyanide Muffin Admiral Premium Member

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    Well played sir
     
  16. 1001001

    1001001 Pull Up a Groove and Get Fabulous! Moderator

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    Some weird tangents and mild personal comments.

    Let's get back on track.

    Star Trek isn't going to complain about itself, you know.
     
  17. Cyanide Muffin

    Cyanide Muffin Admiral Premium Member

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    Spherical ships sound neat......... just have gravity shafts instead of turbolifts problem solved
     
  18. Hades Temperature Checker

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    Spherical ships by themselves could be ok. The Daedalus design isn't just a sphere but also a secondary hull and engines. It doesn't look very effective to me, which is partially my bias as I find the whole thing extremely ugly.
     
  19. Ryan Thomas Riddle

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    If Star Trek could complain about itself, it'd never leave the house.
     
  20. Ghouleddie74

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    And it'd be a Mod here.