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1. Isn't that what I said, SB?

2. So "soromance" is bromance's female equivalent? You learn something new every day...
 
Kirk wasn't alone. That bald British guy was with him.

Also, I will never understand why some fans put SO much stock in that line. Kirk wasn't psychic.

You should know that even the most inconsequential, offhand onscreen remarks, especially jokes, are to be regarded as absolute, deadly serious Qanon, excuse me, Canon graven in stone like the Ten Commandments.

Robert
 
I'm glad this has come up on the Unpopular Opinion thread because it's bugged me for years.
"I always knew I'd die alone"
Every time I watch Generations Kirk dies with Picard with him. Like, right in his face. Not alone. With someone else with him in his final moments.

Also, Shatner not a good actor? Pshaw, Stewart couldn't have done that last scene any better, it was perfect.

I fail to see the contradiciton there. Kirk always felt that he would die alone, but like many humans he inaccurately said that he always knew knew he would die alone, even though you can't know something whch isn't true. Sometimes it may take thousnd sof years to find out whther someone merely thought he kneow or actually knew osmething.

Writing a story where someone's premonitions come true is bad science and thus bad science fiction.
 
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:rolleyes:
I don't even know where to begin to point out the holes in this statement, especially in the context of that line and that movie.

I think it depends on the type of science fiction. Generally, in 'hard' science fiction, I'd agree that the quality of the science (even if somewhat speculative) is very important. In 'soft' science fiction (such as Trek, where it is more window dressing than the heart of the story, and where it might even be labeled phantasy instead), it matters a great deal less, imho.
 
I think it depends on the type of science fiction. Generally, in 'hard' science fiction, I'd agree that the quality of the science (even if somewhat speculative) is very important. In 'soft' science fiction (such as Trek, where it is more window dressing than the heart of the story, and where it might even be labeled phantasy instead), it matters a great deal less, imho.

Honestly I don't care all that much as long as a story is well written and makes internal sense.
Though saying a story is "bad science" or "bad science fiction" because Kirk says "I always knew I'd die alone" is laughable. A lot of people, especially in a field of work like Kirk's, would are worried about dying alone/without a family/far away from heir friends and loved ones. And when he did "die alone" then it was just confirmation bias, not some magical premonition.
 
What kind of "mance" is there between a gay guy and a straight woman as in one sitcom whose title eludes me right now?
The not-romance. Also applies to not-boyfriends and not-girlfriends. And not-nonbinaryfriends.

Kind of like how Starfleet is the "Not-Military".
 
One article just made "bromance" mean any very close relationship between any two characters that was absolutely devoid of romance or sexuality. They considered Dax and Sisko to be a bromance, for instance.

Not sure I agree, but it solves the problem.
 
No same-sex orientation... that we know of.;)
Heh.

Of course, one or two of them could be gay, just not with each other.

I like that Discovery has featured f/f friendships, although I don't think they come close to the bromances we've seen. Julian/ Miles, Kirk/ Spock etc.

I think the musical episode of Scrubs, which featured probably my favorite bromance, had a funny song about it...
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I miss that show.
 
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Sigh all you want, it does happen. Probably quite often, given that people get crushes regardless of inclination, either their own or the other person's. Is it really that different from having a crush on an opposite sex person and finding out that she's got a boyfriend? Unavailable is unavailable.

You may decide for yourself whether a relationship must be free of romantic feelings on either side to qualify as a bromance, or if free of romantic actions will do.
 
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