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It works?

Not quite. The first few minutes, yes. But I have trouble with the battle at the start. The Kelvin being destroyed so easily.
STAR TREK '09 has A LOT of things that just were stupid or didn't work (and I have a LOT of issues with that movie), but the Nerada destroying the Kelvin easily is NOT one of them.

It came over 150 years from the future and another universe... of course it was going to beat that ship down easily. It's surprising the Kelvin lasted as long as she did.
 
If our explanation is all sorts of weapons are mounted on the ship, are we not just saying it's a warship that can do some commercial work?
I would not say that.

You certainly could, and given the Romulan Star Empire, the recent Dominion War, and attempted coup, the Narada might have pulled double duty in the service to Romulus.
 
One of the many times where Trek’s “Earth-size fits all” fails it completely and makes it feel antiquated.
 
Here's the thing: I'm saying the better explanation if Narada were simply a warship.

It doesn't need to come from the far future.
It doesn't need to be equipped with munitions and equipment that can pull double duty in combat.
It doesn't need to have exotic technology from the Borg.

It's just a warship. Occam's Razor.

Certainly, any manner of extra explanation could be applied, but saying it is a warship is more direct, simpler, more understandable ... better.

I would not say that.

You certainly could, and given the Romulan Star Empire, the recent Dominion War, and attempted coup, the Narada might have pulled double duty in the service to Romulus.
 
Just rewatched Where No Man Has Gone Before. By far the best pilot episode of Trek, above all other series and among the ten best episodes, again across all series.
I agree, except I think "Strange New Worlds," the second best pilot, puts your "by far" qualification to the test. It's not neck-and-neck with WNMHGB, but the SNW pilot stands well above all the remaining pilots.

Just FWIW, I'd probably have to place "The Cage" at #3.
Preaching the controversy, "Beyond the Farthest Star" is clocking in at #4 on my list (go, Samuel Peeples!).
Rounding out my top five today is "Emissary".
 
I agree, except I think "Strange New Worlds," the second best pilot, puts your "by far" qualification to the test. It's not neck-and-neck with WNMHGB, but the SNW pilot stands well above all the remaining pilots.

I got around to watching this a second time and I was largely bored by it.
 
Thank you for walking into my trap.

What current commercial vessel is capable of utterly destroying an ironclad--a battleship or ram--from the 1870s?
i bet some supertankers and big cargoships could roll over them, both due to mass and better metallurgy and construction tecniques. probably mess them up a bunch but
 
Kovich/Daniels in Season 3 of DSC confirms this when he's explaining the time soldier Yor and says that he comes from a reality created by the temporal incursion of a Romulan mining ship.
 
Here's the thing: I'm saying the better explanation if Narada were simply a warship.

It doesn't need to come from the far future.
It doesn't need to be equipped with munitions and equipment that can pull double duty in combat.
It doesn't need to have exotic technology from the Borg.

It's just a warship. Occam's Razor.

Certainly, any manner of extra explanation could be applied, but saying it is a warship is more direct, simpler, more understandable ... better.
Mileage will vary. I prefer the text of the film.
 
I'm not arguing against dialogue or canon, but story choices.

I like the idea that it was just a Romulan mining ship from the future. It makes it feel “different” from human expectations. That an alien culture does things differently than we do. I don’t need it to play to human expectations.

Trek and Trek fandom too often fall into a rut that aliens need to be equivalent to our human expectations.
 
I like the idea that it was just a Romulan mining ship from the future. It makes it feel “different” from human expectations. That an alien culture does things differently than we do. I don’t need it to play to human expectations.

Trek and Trek fandom too often fall into a rut that aliens need to be equivalent to our human expectations.
Also ignore context that could shed light on to the why in the story.
 
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