What are your controversial Star Trek opinions?
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I can honestly say that I do not remember that episode.
"Alice." The alien shuttle with the feminine computer personality that takes over Tom's mind when he tries to repair and fly it.
Sounds vaguely familiar. I may have seen it and it just made no impression, good or bad.
I don't mind it, but it's a pretty ridiculous episode even for VOY.
It's "Christine IN SPAAAAACE!"
Braga basically admitted as much.
"ALICE" was okay. I always enjoyed it.
Honestly, the most ridiculous thing about that episode was Chakotay's line about already having 'a full complement of shuttles, plus the Delta Flyer'. Considering he personally got 3 of them destroyed by this point (and a 4th near the end of the show in "NATURAL LAW"), he's got some nerve talking about shuttle numbers.
(Notice he didn't pilot a shuttle again after he lost the one in "NEMESIS", early season 4. Not until "NATURAL LAW". Clearly, Janeway didn't want to risk losing more because of him. Smart of her.)
There have been FAR more ridiculous things than this episode, especially in the current era. (Like crying on a dilithium planet causing The Burn.)
Honestly, the most ridiculous thing about that episode was Chakotay's line about already having 'a full complement of shuttles, plus the Delta Flyer'. Considering he personally got 3 of them destroyed by this point (and a 4th near the end of the show in "NATURAL LAW"), he's got some nerve talking about shuttle numbers.
(Notice he didn't pilot a shuttle again after he lost the one in "NEMESIS", early season 4. Not until "NATURAL LAW". Clearly, Janeway didn't want to risk losing more because of him. Smart of her.)
There have been FAR more ridiculous things than this episode, especially in the current era. (Like crying on a dilithium planet causing The Burn.)
Voyager would have been a far more interesting show if they had actually had to deal with the consequences of their actions, like running out of shuttles and that causing serious issues.
If, for example, they had dealt with that issue gradually over time, and then they finally ran across a planet of friendly people with the resources to help them build the Delta Flyer, that would have made far more sense than the way they did things.
If, for example, they had dealt with that issue gradually over time, and then they finally ran across a planet of friendly people with the resources to help them build the Delta Flyer, that would have made far more sense than the way they did things.
Which led to Ronald D Moore developing Battlestar Galáctica reboot. (my iPhone is on my English/Spanish keyboard and it’s going to spell it like that no matter what, apparently) where a long voyage actually has consequences.
It's a mixed bag. Definitely could have been better but I enjoyed the basic concept. Annoying how slow everyone is on the uptake about the ship though.
True, and it's driving me crazy. Guess I should start using a different search engine...
Very, very, very much like.
LMAO what the actual hell
I HATE IT WHEN THAT HAPPENS!
Everything is AI generated these days though tbh.
Give it time...
I don't have anything else to do.
Berman and Braga were really out of ideas at a certain point yet they kept going for years.
That's why I respect Michael Piller and Jeri Taylor enormously. Both knew when it was time to step away and hand off the reins to someone else. Admittedly, Piller handing off DS9 to Behr and Voyager to Taylor worked better than Taylor handing off Voyager to Braga, but both knew when it was time to say goodbye. As did Behr, who walked away from Trek after DS9 and even tried to talk Ron Moore out of moving to Voyager.
Even in the movies, Harve Bennett turned down big money to continue because the studio wanted to just keep churning out more classic Trek films and he knew he was out of ideas for that. He proposed an alternative with his Starfleet Academy film, but when they insisted on going a different direction, he didn't just take the money and do it, he walked away because he knew the result wouldn't be any good.
I do not think Berman and Braga were bad producers or writers, and I often remind people that Berman produced what is the most successful era and widely beloved era of Trek. They just stayed too long at the party. To Berman's credit, he did tell Paramount that they were doing too much Trek in too short a period of time. However, when they insisted, he didn't do like Bennett and step away, he went ahead even though he was creatively drained at that point. That was a mistake.
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