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What about age?

^I thought DS9 was up there too but TNG will always hold as my #1.

I like the Star Wars movies. All three of them.

I bet you'll be in line to see Episode 7 with everyone else.

Oh, and welcome aboard Shapeshifter.

Now that Lucas is gone, and from what I've been reading of the new trilogy, they stand to be markedly better than the prequels.

Just because one despises the prequels does not preclude them from wanting to see the new ones. I for one, and very excited for them, along with the prospect of an Obi-Wan movie.

Back to thread, I love all sci-fi and fantasy pretty much.
 
^I thought DS9 was up there too but TNG will always hold as my #1.

I like the Star Wars movies. All three of them.

I bet you'll be in line to see Episode 7 with everyone else.

Oh, and welcome aboard Shapeshifter.

Now that Lucas is gone, and from what I've been reading of the new trilogy, they stand to be markedly better than the prequels.

Just because one despises the prequels does not preclude them from wanting to see the new ones. I for one, and very excited for them, along with the prospect of an Obi-Wan movie.

Back to thread, I love all sci-fi and fantasy pretty much.

I wasn't saying disliking a prequel makes you not want to watch sequels, I was saying Star Wars is so iconic, no matter how much graphic porn they put in it or whomever they get to direct it (even Michael Bay), people would watch it.
 
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The comparison that the OP posited might be questioned just by virtue of the oft stated proposition that Star Wars really isn't science fiction anyway. :)
 
The comparison that the OP posited might be questioned just by virtue of the oft stated proposition that Star Wars really isn't science fiction anyway. :)

By some strict standards neither Star Wars nor Star Trek are science fiction, as neither are 'Hard' science fiction. Star Wars is a Western set in space and Star Trek is fantasy set in space.

Personally I'm more psyched for episode VIII than episode VII, because Rian Johnson is directing them, and Brick, Looper and Ozymandias are all amazing.
 
Nothing wrong with explosions (well, unless you are in the middle of it). I like 'xplosions, and I'm 36. No reason why a good series can't have smart writing and cool visuals.
I'm not sure why I thought you were older.
I had that told to me before. I'm sure it's because I'm wise beyond my years.

Or all the grey hair.

Naaah. Definitively the wisdom thing.

There was a message board I used to frequent that had a guy on there in Finland. His English was very good, so I figured he was in his 20s. Turned out he was 15. He had learned Received Standard English in school, so I suppose that's why he didn't sound like a kid.
 
I'm 29, and let me tell you, I find the older I get the less tolerance I have for complicated storytelling. Mind you, I haven't sunk to the level of being entertained by Michael Bay's Transformers, but sometimes simplistic is better.

Of course, my main beef is all these shows which try to go for complex involved multi-year story arcs. But there you are.

I'm 42 and I am the opposite.

The older I get, the more I WANT complex, serial stories and story arcs. I like my episodes to feel like a chapter in a book, not just a bunch of unrelated episodes strung together. If you are a fan of shows like Sopranos, Game of Thrones, or Breaking Bad, Walking Dead, Dexter, or Hannibal, like I am, for example, it is so hard to go back to a format where episodes lack story arcs and once events happen, are never referenced again. I love the mythology of shows, and sci fi one of the best forums for that.

Don't get me wrong, I love TOS, and without the show, we wouldn't have the sci fi we have today. But it wasn't until the movies that I felt that there was a continuity and cohesion between the characters, beyond the episode-of-the-week.

I like the fact that TNG was the first to bring a more unified continuity not to just the show, but to the Trek Universe as a whole. Though TNG was still episodic, it was the beginning of arcs for Trek. DS9 ran with that idea even more. Voyager took a back slide in story arcs. They still had them, but Voyager was more episodic could have been more serial than it was, but not to slam it because I think it did a decent job. Season 3 and 4 of Enterprise really returned to the serial feel of DS9, so gets kudos for that.

As for other sci fi shows, Xfiles had a great mythology, while at the same time balancing that concept with episodic, monster-of-the-week episodes, and its only real crime was staying on the air too long by a couple seasons.

Moore's BSG was a great show, at least up until new Caprica, but I still love the show as a whole. It still remains one of my favorite shows of all time.

Babylon 5, well, you either love it or not. I love it. Its downfall was it just didn't have the budget to bring in better actors or sets, but (filler episodes aside) it absolutely had so many great concepts and story arcs.

As for Stargate, give me SG1 seasons 1-8, and Atlantis, and I am happy. I think as far as long-lived sci fi shows go, Stargate deserves credit for having the most consistency in internal canon, the largest story arcs, and for me is an overall great show.

But for the record, I do like my less complex sci fi, too. I am and always will be a fan of Star Wars OT. I even like the PT, though to a much lesser extent. I am also a big fan of the Aliens, Terminator, original Robocop and Predator franchises. They still entertained me, even if less complex story-wise, and indeed they shaped how I see sci fi, today.
 
I am 53 and have been watching Trek since I was 15 years old. I have seen the original Star Wars trilogy (and own them on Blu-ray) but the stories IMHO are so simplistic compared to the best of Trek. What really ticks me off is the number of people who get Star Trek and Star Wars mixed up.:brickwall:
 
What really ticks me off is the number of people who get Star Trek and Star Wars mixed up.:brickwall:
It's because they're not really into either, IMO. They may be passingly familiar with various characters and certain aspects from both, but they're not into their respective minutiae.

Both having similar titles beginning with "Star" doesn't help them.
 
What really ticks me off is the number of people who get Star Trek and Star Wars mixed up.:brickwall:
It's because they're not really into either, IMO. They may be passingly familiar with various characters and certain aspects from both, but they're not into their respective minutiae.

Both having similar titles beginning with "Star" doesn't help them.
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Serialized formats have never appealed to me, or I would have been watching daytime soap operas back in the 60s. Didn't watch Dallas or Dynasty regularly either. I always equated self-contained television episodics with short stories, and motion pictures with novels. I wasn't able to view ENT 3 & 4 regularly, so was completely lost much of the time when I would see it. I started watching nuBSG last month, but after getting through the first half of Season 2, I'm not enthusiastic about it or whether to continue.
 
Yeah Melakon, I don't think nuBSG or ENT S3 would be your cup of tea, so I wouldn't recommend you continue. :)

Me on the other hand...give me more!!! :techman::bolian:
 
Serialized formats have never appealed to me, or I would have been watching daytime soap operas back in the 60s. Didn't watch Dallas or Dynasty regularly either. I always equated self-contained television episodics with short stories, and motion pictures with novels. I wasn't able to view ENT 3 & 4 regularly, so was completely lost much of the time when I would see it. I started watching nuBSG last month, but after getting through the first half of Season 2, I'm not enthusiastic about it or whether to continue.

Well, back in the days one reliedon network TV as one's only means of seeing a show, I can see how a serial format can be challenging for some, especially if someone has a varied schedule. But these days with DVRs, online streaming, Netflix, multiple airings per week if its a cable show, and DVD/BR box sets being pretty cheap these days (heck, many city libraries regularly check out new DVDs and BR box sets), if you are totally lost because you occasionally watch a serial show, it's because you are really not into that show in the first place.
 
I finally did see all of ENT after ordering the series through Amazon last year. I'm still not thrilled with the Season 3 Xindi Arc, except for a few episodes, including "Carpenter Street" with one of my favorite Trek guests, Leland Orser. Season 4 with the smaller arcs is more to my liking.

I thought the whole Temporal Cold War semi-arc was a heaping bowl of crap.
 
Well, all that proves is story arcs aren't for everyone, and you aren't a fan of those shows. Which is fine, BTW.

I was just saying someone who says they can't get into a show that utilizes story arcs because they miss an episode here or there and are confused as to what's going on, have options to get caught up, and if they don't get caught up, it just means that they aren't really into the show in the first place.

If said person doesn't like the story being told, arc or not, it's a different thing altogether.
 
I finally did see all of ENT after ordering the series through Amazon last year. I'm still not thrilled with the Season 3 Xindi Arc, except for a few episodes, including "Carpenter Street" with one of my favorite Trek guests, Leland Orser.

I'm quite fond of "Impulse".
 
^ Vulcan Zombies was a pretty good idea, and I wish more had been done with crazy T'Pol, perhaps flinging people into bulkheads with her superior strength or something. But during my pig out of going through the entire series in less than a month, I thought they did too many "haunted house" episodes.

I often focus more on technical elements-- camera, lighting, set design, actor business, etc., than plots.
 
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