Wesley Crusher reviews Star Trek Into Darkness

Discussion in 'Star Trek Movies: Kelvin Universe' started by Shaka Zulu, Jun 20, 2013.

  1. Shaka Zulu

    Shaka Zulu Commodore Commodore

    Mar 28, 2013
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    Well, not really. But Wil Wheaton has some things to say about the new movie:

    My review of Star Trek Into Darkness

    Interesting take on it, although I'm still not getting the outrage over seeing Marcus in her undies.
  2. Sindatur

    Sindatur The Gray Owl Wizard Premium Member

    Jan 2, 2011
    Sacramento, CA
    Agreed. I see absolutely no difference between the Catsuits Troi, Kira, Seven, and T'Pol wore comapred to Doctor Marcus in her underwear, except Doctor Marcus was in her underwear for only a minute, whreas the rest of them live in their cat suits. Additionally, the cat suits often showed shining headlights and were so snug around the lady parts, you could see outlines, I don't recall either of these being true with Doctor Marcus' underwear (Though, Kira's is definitely the least offensive of the Cat Suits). oh, and yes, Doctor Marcus you could see her navel, but, I recall a time or two the catsuits were so snug, they outlined a navel.
  3. JamesRye

    JamesRye Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

    Nov 7, 2012
    I like Wil Wheaton, I think his review is pretty spot on. The local independent cinema here in Exeter UK is going to be screening Stand By Me this weekend and I plan to get all nostalgic and pay a trip to see it.

    I'm pleased that he articulates why Gene would be proud of this new movie. I'd like Mr Burton to better articulate his gripes - maybe he was in a bad mood or something when he complained that it lacked .... Gene Roddenberry's touch.

    My ST:ID review:

  4. Jax

    Jax Admiral Admiral

    Its a mobile AIRTIGHT ship, I don't understand the reaction to the water bit from some sections.
  5. Enterprise is Great

    Enterprise is Great Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Oct 24, 2004
    If it can survive in space why not underwater? I just don't get this objection other than people just do not like seeing the ship underwater for whatever reason.
  6. JamesRye

    JamesRye Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

    Nov 7, 2012
    Yup- and there is a precedent. Voyager went through fluidic space!

    I don't get why people had a problem with the big-E under water either. They couldn't beam through the atmosphere, so they went through the atmosphere to the middle of the ocean (where no one would see them) and then moved a bit closer to the land masses.

    simples :techman:
  7. Kevman7987

    Kevman7987 Captain Captain

    May 20, 2013
    Erie, PA, USA
    I don't understand this either. My Star Trek Micro Machines survived many a mission in the bathtub without any sort of damage. :techman:
  8. Third Nacelle

    Third Nacelle Captain Captain

    Apr 4, 2013
    The Denorios Belt
    I have to disagree with Mr. Wheaton on the beginning of the movie. To me, the mission to Niburu felt more like Star Trek than any other part of either of the new films.

    Maybe hiding the ship underwater is a bit silly, but so was hiding a holoship underwater, or taking the Delta Flyer into that ocean planet. In general, I would not think that something designed to hold in a lot of internal pressure in a vacuum would do very well with a lot of external pressure, but I'm not going to judge 23rd-century tech.
  9. OpenMaw

    OpenMaw Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

    May 26, 2013
    Everett, Washington
    Yes, but, who honestly liked the catsuits? I honestly found it disconcerting that a show which enjoyed patting itself on the back for being progressive kept reusing the same hook to get the young boys drooling.

    As such, i'll take Saavik with her hair down any day. :cool:
  10. Opus

    Opus Commodore Commodore

    Jun 20, 2003
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    Brannon Braga
  11. Spock/Uhura Fan

    Spock/Uhura Fan Captain Captain

    Aug 20, 2012
    Where It's At.
    He "read a lot of online criticism that Uhura didn’t do anything useful and was just there to weep and be weak around Spock" because it's true. And that's the milder criticism of how poorly her character was portrayed and the S/U relationship in general which was so great in the first film.

    Aside from the underwear scene, Marcus was treated better than Uhura was in my opinion, but neither got great treatment from my view.
  12. General_Phoenix

    General_Phoenix Commander Red Shirt

    Apr 23, 2006
    The problem with the Enterprise being under water (for me..anyway) is it's never really explained why it is there, we just have to accept that it's just..well..under water. Why not simply be in orbit like any other mission? Why risk exposing a primitive society to an advanced technological achievement like the Enterprise? There are tons of questions, but I guess in the end we just have to accept the fact is was there for a cool shot of the Enterprise coming out from an ocean.
  13. CaptainDave1701

    CaptainDave1701 Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

    Jan 17, 2008
    So why are we giving credit to the opinion of Sheldon Cooper's mortal enemy here....

    As for what he thought was wrong with the film perhaps he should he should dissect his own body of work in The Next Generation. He is somewhat the Jar Jar Binks of that era.:guffaw:
  14. M.A.C.O.

    M.A.C.O. Commodore Commodore

    Sep 13, 2011
    Remember Uhura had an underwear scene with Kirk in ST09. I suppose in the Abramsverse strong women characters must first be degraded to being seen in their undercloths. Le sigh:shrug:
  15. Commishsleer

    Commishsleer Commodore Commodore

    Apr 19, 2013
    Last place in Australia to get the NBN
    I hope Wil Wheaton was embarressed by the 'firm boob' scene in INS.

    That was his 'mother' :lol:

    Still I think he does have a point about Marcus' intelligence. She was Spock's scientific peer in TWOK. I hope she has more scientific things to do in the next movie.
  16. Charles Phipps

    Charles Phipps Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

    Sep 17, 2011
    What is actually shocking is I THINK JJ Abrams was trying to show Kirk didn't actually know what he was doing. He WAS underqualified for his position and needed more training. It's just, without Pike, he needs Spock and his crew to reign him in.
  17. Dukhat

    Dukhat Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Dec 26, 2007
    Baltimore, MD
    You just answered your own question. The movie explained quite well why the ship was underwater, and I don't really understand why so many people keep asking that question.

    The ship was under water because it served the plot of the movie. If Kirk had the ship in orbit, then there would be no chance for the natives to see it. The whole point of them being able to see the ship was proof that Kirk was an inexperienced captain whose command should be taken away from him for recklessness. I mean, that was half the freaking movie's plot!

    Edit: Charles Phipps above me essentially says the same thing I did.
  18. Charles Phipps

    Charles Phipps Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

    Sep 17, 2011
    I believe the official answer is that they needed to be ultra-close in order to do beaming.
  19. mos6507

    mos6507 Commodore Commodore

    Dec 22, 2010
    You have it backwards. The plot of the movie was constructed in order to rationalize a "cool visual". It's the George Lucas school of thinking, which is fine for SW, but out of place in Trek.
  20. Lance

    Lance Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    May 9, 2012
    The Enterprise's Restroom
    Um... he already has.