My bad, i thought we were just talking about Klingons in general
Were Klingons Based On Arabs?
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Yes, Misfit Toy already told us that it was a parody (I wondered, but I try not to visit questionable sites from work so I dared not check). But thanks for the "Uh guys" anyway. You never know.
Exactly. My sister does the same thing. I've sent her so many Snopes.com links that I should start charging her for the research.
Oh, that's OK - at least you asked about it before forwarding the link to every human being that you know!If only my sister or one of those other people who are always forwarding me crap would do as much.
, sorry for wasting everybody's time.
I like in Star Charts how the Klingon Empire is 1)red and 2)shaped like an "upside-down" Soviet Union. The spit of territory that touches the Romulans and Federation looks like Kamchatka.
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I have to admit, I was buying it until it got to the quotes by the kids. At that point, I started laughing and realized it was fake. Nice satire/spoof of some of the really far out there religious groups.
A wee book called Beowulf
It seems to me that the Klingons as depicted in TNG are based on the Japanese, and the Romulans Cold War Soviet Union. There might be something mentioned in the book "The Making of Star Trek" by Stephen E, Whitfield & Gene Roddenberry,
James
James
After I dug through my books and found "The Making of Star Trek", the Romulans as seen in TOS were based on the Ancient Roman Empire, the book doesn't say who the Klingons are based on. They remind me of Ancient Japan, up to the end of World War II.
James
James
As I recall the klingons were supposed to be an allagory to the cold war during TOS, then Viking/Norse culture during and after TNG. Since both of those came out before any political tension began between the USA and Ahrabs (Sorry if I spelled that wrong) I highly doubt thats where the basis came from. As it stands from a personal POV, I met someone who's parents imigrated here from afganistan while I was in basic. He didn't much remind me of a klingon at all.
Indeed. The only fear of Arabs in the 1960s--and even this is probably anachronistic--was that they were going to "buy America." The stereotype was alive and well in the 1980s, though. Ferengi: oil shieks?
...Yeah, probably not.
...Yeah, probably not.
I thought the Ferengi were based on the JEWS! weren't they?Indeed. The only fear of Arabs in the 1960s--and even this is probably anachronistic--was that they were going to "buy America." The stereotype was alive and well in the 1980s, though. Ferengi: oil shieks?
...Yeah, probably not.
No, Egyptians! Look at those whips! You'd think the Ferengi away team was down there to build a pyramid.
Throughout Trek history the answer would be
No
No
and maybe a yes (This was after Roddenberry died)
Here's some of the infamous rumors floating across the web, take it with a pinch of salt
The Roddenbery Klingon was a traditional USSR style warrior, something like a Mongolian. Since he wrote the show when the Cold War was at its height its very possible. Why would the Klingons not be based on or inspired by some guys like this?
Romulans are Chinese, the passion, the poetry, the paranoia, Cold-War style stand offs and isolation
Vulcans are either logical Japanese or like the old Russian commies, no emotion and logical marxists.
Vulcans and the Romulans in the show were depicted as two cultures that evolved from the same root, one the Federation can work with (Japanese) the other was stand off-ish in a Cold War (Chinese)
Ferengi might be considered by some to be the stereotype of Jewish banking money grabbers or Oil Sheiks
Jem Hadar had that whole Aryan nazi Germans thing going on
Later the Klingon changed from a USSR warrior to a Viking and maybe finally to a holy Muslim warrior, the Klingon obesssion with blood letting might have some connection to Ashura rituals and the whole Kahless thing just seems to be a bit like this whole second coming of the last direct descendant of Muhammed
But then again you had that whole Cardassians/Bajorians Jews and Arabs speculation floating around when DS9 was popular. I've also heard the Cardassians compared to Dutch and even French.
No
No
and maybe a yes (This was after Roddenberry died)
Here's some of the infamous rumors floating across the web, take it with a pinch of salt
The Roddenbery Klingon was a traditional USSR style warrior, something like a Mongolian. Since he wrote the show when the Cold War was at its height its very possible. Why would the Klingons not be based on or inspired by some guys like this?
Romulans are Chinese, the passion, the poetry, the paranoia, Cold-War style stand offs and isolation
Vulcans are either logical Japanese or like the old Russian commies, no emotion and logical marxists.
Vulcans and the Romulans in the show were depicted as two cultures that evolved from the same root, one the Federation can work with (Japanese) the other was stand off-ish in a Cold War (Chinese)
Ferengi might be considered by some to be the stereotype of Jewish banking money grabbers or Oil Sheiks
Jem Hadar had that whole Aryan nazi Germans thing going on
Later the Klingon changed from a USSR warrior to a Viking and maybe finally to a holy Muslim warrior, the Klingon obesssion with blood letting might have some connection to Ashura rituals and the whole Kahless thing just seems to be a bit like this whole second coming of the last direct descendant of Muhammed
But then again you had that whole Cardassians/Bajorians Jews and Arabs speculation floating around when DS9 was popular. I've also heard the Cardassians compared to Dutch and even French.
The Dutch?
I could maybe see the Bajorans compared to the Dutch (in Bragaese: ancient Dutch)--with the revolt against mighty Spain and all. And John Calvin is kind of like an orb of the prophet, I guess.
I could maybe see the Bajorans compared to the Dutch (in Bragaese: ancient Dutch)--with the revolt against mighty Spain and all. And John Calvin is kind of like an orb of the prophet, I guess.
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