I agree. The "monster maroons" seem like the least comfortable and practical Starfleet uniforms that we've seen.
Weird TOS covors
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I agree. The "monster maroons" seem like the least comfortable and practical Starfleet uniforms that we've seen.
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Farscape had a major problem. The problem it had was SciFi Channel. They had a lot of good original programming like Farscape and they went and cancelled it and ended up putting garbage on like Ghost Hunters. They even had that ass John Edwards on for a bit. And NuBSG was awful. Look at the programming they run on Saturday. It's mostly really awful horror movies that have nothing at all to do with science fiction. Then the during the day programming is a lot of reruns that were not good when they were first run. Hell, they cannot even rerun Enterprise correctly. The SyFy HD runs Enterprise in less then full screen. They run it at 4:3 size with the size blank and letterboxed when the show was shot at full 16:9 to fill the full screen.
You know, I sometimes wonder if the reason I never got into Stargate was because the uniforms were so dull . . . .
The folks on Farscape were a much more colorful bunch!
Farscape had a major problem. The problem it had was SciFi Channel. They had a lot of good original programming like Farscape and they went and cancelled it and ended up putting garbage on like Ghost Hunters. They even had that ass John Edwards on for a bit. And NuBSG was awful. Look at the programming they run on Saturday. It's mostly really awful horror movies that have nothing at all to do with science fiction. Then the during the day programming is a lot of reruns that were not good when they were first run. Hell, they cannot even rerun Enterprise correctly. The SyFy HD runs Enterprise in less then full screen. They run it at 4:3 size with the size blank and letterboxed when the show was shot at full 16:9 to fill the full screen.
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Actually, I liked BSG, even though it was very different in tone. The subdued colors in the uniforms fit the mood of the show.
But that's a whole other topic . . . .
You know, I sometimes wonder if the reason I never got into Stargate was because the uniforms were so dull . . . .
The folks on Farscape were a much more colorful bunch!
Farscape had a major problem. The problem it had was SciFi Channel. They had a lot of good original programming like Farscape and they went and cancelled it and ended up putting garbage on like Ghost Hunters. They even had that ass John Edwards on for a bit. And NuBSG was awful. .
Actually, I liked BSG, even though it was very different in tone. The subdued colors in the uniforms fit the mood of the show.
But that's a whole other topic . . . .
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BSG was a good show originally (until they got to Earth). NuBSG wasn't good. It just felt all wrong. It didn't have characters that I cared about. If they all died and the Cylons won, so be it. In BSG, the characters were worth caring about. They were basically two different shows. The original being good and the remake being awful.
You know, I sometimes wonder if the reason I never got into Stargate was because the uniforms were so dull . . . .
The folks on Farscape were a much more colorful bunch!
Farscape had a major problem. The problem it had was SciFi Channel. They had a lot of good original programming like Farscape and they went and cancelled it and ended up putting garbage on like Ghost Hunters. They even had that ass John Edwards on for a bit. And NuBSG was awful. .
Actually, I liked BSG, even though it was very different in tone. The subdued colors in the uniforms fit the mood of the show.
But that's a whole other topic . . . .
BSG was a good show originally (until they got to Earth). NuBSG wasn't good. It just felt all wrong. It didn't have characters that I cared about. If they all died and the Cylons won, so be it. In BSG, the characters were worth caring about. They were basically two different shows. The original being good and the remake being awful.
I was referring to the opening-credits regular characters. Yes, other branches of the military appeared in the series.
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Well, we have to disagree there. I never liked the original BSG and thought the characters in the reboot were vastly more complicated and interesting.
But, like I said, that's probably a topic for another thread. We're talking about STAR TREK uniforms here.
Well, we have to disagree there. I never liked the original BSG and thought the characters in the reboot were vastly more complicated and interesting.
But, like I said, that's probably a topic for another thread. We're talking about STAR TREK uniforms here.
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As for the color of TMP uniforms, I had no problem with that. It was the pajama style that was the problem.
As for the color of TMP uniforms, I had no problem with that. It was the pajama style that was the problem.
A couple of points:
When was the last time you actually watched the original BSG? Let's be honest, a disproportionately large chunk of it stunk on ice.
As for the pajamas angle, a lot of folks, including De Kelley, have compared the TOS uniforms to pajamas. Probably something to do with the velour tunics.
When was the last time you actually watched the original BSG? Let's be honest, a disproportionately large chunk of it stunk on ice.
As for the pajamas angle, a lot of folks, including De Kelley, have compared the TOS uniforms to pajamas. Probably something to do with the velour tunics.
By coincidence, I was just rereading an old interview with William Campbell in which he described his TOS Klingon uniform as "pajamas."
More like a hospital frock.
The ENT jumpsuits were inarguably the best because that's what our astronauts (on some kind of star trek) wear today for the most part and that was set 150 years from now. Why did Starfleet change uniforms seemingly every decade for the following two hundred years??
Why do airline stewards, army, navy, sporting teams and schools today change their uniforms every so often? Sometimes it will be the positioning of a badge, or the addition of an item, the switching of a colour, while other times it will be a complete revamp, or even the return to something reminiscent of a previous era. Fashions are cyclic - and in the 23rd/24th century of recyclers and spray 'n' wear clothing, it won't be as wasteful to keep changing uniform designs.
I can understand, to a point, sports teams doing it. But once the rest have a uniform that works, why change it? I understand that fashions change, but military uniforms are not fashionable so why should they change? To be more fashionable? I think ENT's uniforms would work no matter what century they're in because they are practical, adaptable and have pockets. How can removing pockets make for a better uniform?
Have a ENT-style jumpsuit for the primary uniform and dress blues/whites/whatever for formal occasions and be done with it.
military uniforms don't change that frequently. and when they do, it's been because of:
new camouflage techniques (all this 'digital' camo shit the US is adopting)
regiments being amalgamated/combined (which Britain keeps doing. the Gloucestershire Regiment got folded into the Royal Gloucestershire, Berkshire and Wiltshire Regiment, which is now the 1st Battalion, The Rifles Regiment)
or some other sylistic change.
Trek uniforms were pretty stable through the 24th. the maroon jackets lasted from the 2280s up to the 2340s, then came the TNG style, which were slightly modified, and they lasted 30-some years before the black'n'greys came in.
new camouflage techniques (all this 'digital' camo shit the US is adopting)
regiments being amalgamated/combined (which Britain keeps doing. the Gloucestershire Regiment got folded into the Royal Gloucestershire, Berkshire and Wiltshire Regiment, which is now the 1st Battalion, The Rifles Regiment)
or some other sylistic change.
Trek uniforms were pretty stable through the 24th. the maroon jackets lasted from the 2280s up to the 2340s, then came the TNG style, which were slightly modified, and they lasted 30-some years before the black'n'greys came in.
Ever taken a look at the changes of military uniforms over the years? Sometimes they're completely arbitrary, simply because a certain Chief of Staff has some "brilliant" idea, like having ALL Army personnel wear black berets, instead of just Rangers (thus pissing off the Rangers and prompting them to start wearing khaki berets). Or that wonderful idea the Navy had back in the 70's to change the enlisted uniforms to something that looked more like the senior enlisted and officers, and chucking the Cracker Jack sailor suits; that went over like the proverbial lead balloon and the bell bottoms and white sailor hats were back in pretty short order.
Of all the aspects of Star Trek that defy realism, frequent and highly divergent uniform changes ain't it.
Of all the aspects of Star Trek that defy realism, frequent and highly divergent uniform changes ain't it.
Who said they weren't fashionable?
If you were a career miiltary officer, would you really want to be wearing the same clothes you started in decades earlier?
Not a TOS cover, but the TNG novel Sins of Commission's cover shows a Ferengi ship, when they don't ever appear in the book.
"The Great Starship Race" has a Romulan bird of prey on the cover along with a D-7 type ship as part of the 'race'...but only the D-7 should be there.
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