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Weird or "no shit" moments in Star Trek

I must be in the mood for a Voyager rewatch, because lately all I can think about is moments from season one. One moment stuck in my head is from Caretaker, when Paris and Kim meet Captain Janeway and she shows them to the bridge. Ensign Harold Kim walks onto the bridge, wide-eyed with wonder at his new posting. Then, I thought about it. Wait, didn't he have to pass through the bridge to get to the captain's ready room? Did he have his eyes closed so it could be a surprise when the captain gave the tour or was he just humoring her and acting surprised in an attempt to kiss the boss' ass and achieve rank faster?
What are you talking about..? I just took a quick look at the scene. Someone may have taken them straight to the ready room without showing them around or making introductions, especially someone not actually assigned to the bridge.

Another moment I thought of qualifies as a "no shit" moment. In Eye of the Needle, Telek R'Mor states that by the human calendar, the year is 2351, to which Chakotay responds, "But, it's 2371!" Now, I'm aware this is for the viewer's benefit, so it's a shock to realize the wormhole leads to the Alpha Quadrant... but twenty years in the past, but for Chakotay to blurt out what would be blatantly obvious to anyone with a brain strikes me as funny. I imagine Janeway afterwards being like, "Thank you Captain Obvious, of the Federation Starship Sherlock." :lol:
I find this completely believable. Have you ever gone through your life without bringing up what year it is, well into the year...?
 
What are you talking about..? I just took a quick look at the scene. Someone may have taken them straight to the ready room without showing them around or making introductions, especially someone not actually assigned to the bridge.

I just rewatched the scene too, and while it is entirely possible Paris and Kim enter through a door via a back corridor that we don't learn about until Shattered, we are not shown that on screen and instead it looks like they come in through the bridge and are then shown the bridge by Captain Janeway. Just a goofy scene.

I find this completely believable. Have you ever gone through your life without bringing up what year it is, well into the year...?

2018 was my twentieth anniversary graduating high school. I run into people all the time from school asking, "Twenty years! Can you believe it?" I don't respond with, "But... it's 2018!" I'm just, "Damn! Twenty years! Where has time gone?" :(
 
In both TNG "Genesis" and VOY "Macrocosm," the captain and another crewmember return from away missions, to be met with absolutely no response from their ships, and evidence that something bizarre, and possibly biological in nature, has happened aboard. Now, I understand there is no reason for Data to put on an environment suit, but why didn't Picard? Or Janeway? When Picard got infected, I found myself thinking, "Serves you right, dumbass."

"Sub Rosa" admittedly had worse problems than the one I'm about to list, but here goes anyway. Ronin hooked up with a string of "Howard women," beginning with Jessel Howard, back in the 16th century, up through Bev's grandma, and finally Bev herself. If memory serves, there was some particular physical quality of the Howard women that helped to sustain him. Except that if all the Howard women, since the 16th century, were genetically related, the Howard name was passed from mother to daughter, through the female line. No woman in the line of descent, until Bev herself, ever took a spouse's name or allowed a child to carry Dad's surname. I can't emphasize this part strongly enough: since the 16th century. Yeah. Under cultural naming conventions, that just would not have happened.
 
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"Sub Rosa" admittedly had worse problems than the one I'm about to list, but here goes anyway. Ronin hooked up with a string of "Howard women," beginning with Jessel Howard, back in the 16th century, up through Bev's grandma, and finally Bev herself. If memory serves, there was some particular physical quality of the Howard women that helped to sustain him. Except that if all the Howard women, since the 16th century, were genetically related, the Howard name was passed from mother to daughter, through the female line. No woman in the line of descent, until Bev herself, ever took a spouse's name or allowed a child to carry Dad's surname. I can't emphasize this part strongly enough: since the 16th century. Yeah. Under cultural naming conventions, that just would not have happened.

Vonda McIntyre touches on this in her adaptations of TWOK and TSFS. Certain Scottish families have a naming practice that is gender-based, with the patronymic being only for boys, and the matronymic only for girls. That is, if Mister Smith marries Missus Jones, their sons will be named Smith, and their daughters will be named Jones. It's possible that the Howard women are and have been, since the 16th century, just such a family. Once again, I'm speculating about non-canon material, but the practice fits with what we see.
 
I hated "Sub Rosa" with every fiber of my being, however, I don't like the way they're all on Ronin's case when there wasn't proof that he did anything wrong. So he's an alien of an unusual type... So what? They made it clear previously. They respect all forms of life, even the weirdest, so why not him, then? Beverly acting strangely is not proof of anything either. Love sometimes makes people act bizarrely, that's no reason to interfere. Picard's behavior, on the other hand, is more than questionable. He enters Beverly's home like a thief and then proceeds to question Ronin who's her guest for all intents and purposes. I know we're supposed to think that Ronin is the bad guy (and you could argue that he killed that guy with a strange accent) but still the way Picard behaved is inexcusable. I mean, they were prepared to treat the crystalline entity with more respect than Ronin and it killed THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE!! A little coherence would be appreciated, thank you!
 
Commander Remmick's exploding head. Far too cheesy to be creepy in any way, but still I'm weirded out by this level of gore, I simply don't expect that from Trek ...
Its apperantly creepy and gory enough that we didn´t get to see the entire scene here in Germany until the DVD came out...
 
Vonda McIntyre touches on this in her adaptations of TWOK and TSFS. Certain Scottish families have a naming practice that is gender-based, with the patronymic being only for boys, and the matronymic only for girls. That is, if Mister Smith marries Missus Jones, their sons will be named Smith, and their daughters will be named Jones. It's possible that the Howard women are and have been, since the 16th century, just such a family. Once again, I'm speculating about non-canon material, but the practice fits with what we see.
Interesting if true, and would certainly explain the passing on of the female-line surname. I've been looking up Scottish naming customs and not finding this one, but I'd like to hope McIntyre wouldn't just make something like that up. Any Scots who would like to weigh in?
I don't like the way they're all on Ronin's case when there wasn't proof that he did anything wrong.
His "relationship" with Bev (and, by implication, his relationship with all of her direct-line female ancestors) involves dubious consent at best. That Bev is angry at him when she finds out what was going on suggests that she didn't consent entirely of her own free will.
Beverly acting strangely is not proof of anything either. Love sometimes makes people act bizarrely, that's no reason to interfere.
Sometimes it is, especially if someone is acting in a way that's completely out of character. And I would imagine that goes about triple in a universe where telepathy and actual possession are real and verified things.
He enters Beverly's home like a thief and then proceeds to question Ronin who's her guest for all intents and purposes.
Her guest? Ronin is possessing her.
I know we're supposed to think that Ronin is the bad guy (and you could argue that he killed that guy with a strange accent) but still the way Picard behaved is inexcusable.
Ronin has taken control of generations of Beverly's ancestors, and now Beverly herself. He consistently lies about what he is and what he wants. And we have no reason at all to think that Quint was the first guy he killed. I think we could make a pretty good case for him actually being a bad guy. And the fact that he's pulling Bev away from her life and her friends reminds me rather too much of how abusers like to separate their victims from other personal connections.

As for Picard, he has a friend who's acting dramatically out of character, and making life-changing decisions while in that state. His worry, and his anger at Ronin, are natural.
I mean, they were prepared to treat the crystalline entity with more respect than Ronin and it killed THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE!! A little coherence would be appreciated, thank you!
A little coherence would indeed be welcome, though I for one would have preferred their intentions toward the Crystalline Entity to be what changed. I couldn't believe they were trying to come to terms with it.
 
What? Which episode is that? The one where Kirk, Spock and McCoy end up having a threesome? ;-P
I believe the threesome was with Kirk, Spock and Yeoman Tonia Barrows:
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In "Live Fast And Prosper" the doctor (looking like Dala) runs and then he seems out of breath...

Looks like they forgot that he's supposed to be a hologram!!!
 
Again, not the biggest problem with the episode in question, but: VOY "Fortunate Son" has an alien Delta Quadrant race claiming that they "seed" their males on different planets, from which said males find their way back to their homeworld. One of "said males" is supposedly Harry Kim, of Earth. This is taken quite seriously, and supposedly was actually considered by TPTB as a possible alternate origin for Kim.

This shouldn't have passed the giggle test! And nobody, absolutely nobody, thought to ask two key questions that would have blown the alien claim straight to hell. 1) How did you get him (I think it was embryonic "him," please don't make me look it up!) to Earth, all the way across the galaxy? 2) What reason did you have to think that Harry would even be able to get "back" to your planet in his lifetime? It's only the dumbest of luck and the most random of chance that brought Harry to that region of space in the first place.
 
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