(The statement was from @Discofan.) I don't even have a real body to alter. We have a slight adjustment in the color temperature to differentiate globe sexes.I'll take your word for that, Henoch!
JB
Weird or "no shit" moments in Star Trek
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My fair Changeling - 'I've grown accustomed to my face'
(The statement was from @Discofan.) I don't even have a real body to alter. We have a slight adjustment in the color temperature to differentiate globe sexes.
But you used to have a body when you were on the other side!
JB
I don't know about that. In "Children Of Time" we can see a two-hundred-year-old Odo with a face much better defined, which would contradict the idea that he was accustomed to his face. It took him just that long to learn how to morph it. That lousy changeling!!!
You want to talk weird? How about the ending of "Take Me Out To The Holosuite"? The entire team behaves like a bunch of stupid brats. Sportsmanship means you accept defeat gracefully and congratulate your adversary whether you like him/them or not. I've never heard of a team in the real world that would behave this way, IE pretending that they won a game they were humiliatingly bad at!!! I am sorry but I was with Solok on this one! What a bunch of bad LOSERS!!! Of course, the stupid writers think that Solok is the one that looks bad! Bozos!!
Odo himself says he wants to keep his old face. From 5x01, "Apocalypse Rising," after they are getting their faces returned to normal:
BASHIR: Now, that's better, isn't it?
SISKO: I don't know. I could do without ridges but I kind of miss the fangs. That leaves you, Odo.
ODO: It's about time. I, for one, won't miss the fangs at all.
BASHIR: You know, Constable, I could give you any face you like. Bajoran, human, Trill.
ODO: My old face will do very nicely, thank you.
Solok was a douche.
It's obvious that he was afraid that if he ever regained his shapeshifting abilities he wouldn't be able to reproduce that improved face, otherwise, how do you explain the Odo from "Children Of Time"?
Wow, it's hard to make a point sometimes!!!
A couple hundred years with nothing better to do?
The point being that it took him two hundred years to improve his face.
Or maybe it took him some of that time to change his mind on the issue.
True. First, a disease that turns Ferengi into tiny humans. Second, a relapse of the Klingon virus that gives them a smooth forehead...
Yeah, it's for the benefit of the viewer. IRL, I find myself doing that same thing for my parents' benefit when I talk to my brothers on the phone.
Worf probably used more technobabble, or demonstrated without words, or said, "A friend of mine who served on the USS Persistence was telling me about a time he once found himself in similar circumstances. Now, their ship had more power reserves, and they were only fighting against a Tenticktion raider ship, but I think we might be able to modify (adjusting settings as he speaks).... there. Try it now."
Indeed, I'm not quite seeing the issue.
Worf: "Sir, I have a suggestion. We can't raise shields or they will block our transporters, but we do have a more directional alternative available: our tractor beam. (looks around, sees dubious faces) It's essentially the same technology after all."
Sisko (nods): "Good thinking, Mr. Worf. Dax, can you make it work?"
Dax (still dubious): "I guess it's possible. A bit of tweaking of the emitter array and... Ah. There. Ready to fire."
Sisko (rubs hands): "All right. Drop shields and lock tractor beam on the Klingons."
Dax: "You were right, Mr. Worf..."
There's no particular reason to include the words "deflect" or "modulate" in the preceding dialogue. Worf can say "I think this will protect us" and Dax can then specify how much protection exactly they are getting out of the trick.
Timo Saloniemi
Worf: "Sir, I have a suggestion. We can't raise shields or they will block our transporters, but we do have a more directional alternative available: our tractor beam. (looks around, sees dubious faces) It's essentially the same technology after all."
Sisko (nods): "Good thinking, Mr. Worf. Dax, can you make it work?"
Dax (still dubious): "I guess it's possible. A bit of tweaking of the emitter array and... Ah. There. Ready to fire."
Sisko (rubs hands): "All right. Drop shields and lock tractor beam on the Klingons."
Dax: "You were right, Mr. Worf..."
There's no particular reason to include the words "deflect" or "modulate" in the preceding dialogue. Worf can say "I think this will protect us" and Dax can then specify how much protection exactly they are getting out of the trick.
Timo Saloniemi
I suppose. The dialogue still feels just a little clunky to me, though, akin to a show starting out with a family arriving at a mall and a character saying something like, "Well, here we are at the mall to buy a new coffee table!" It's information that (feels like) it would have been imparted already in a different manner, and the current exposition is solely for the benefit of an audience. I can see how this particular scene could have played out differently, though.
A better example might be from the beginning of "The Vulcan Hello":
BURNHAM: This drought's going to last 89 years. The Crepusculans are facing extinction as a species. See those egg sacs? Those are their offspring.
GEORGIOU: They've survived here for over a thousand years, Michael.
BURNHAM: Right, and if we don't do something now, they won't live another thousand hours.
The ambient radiation from a nearby drilling accident dried out their water table.
If we can get in and out without making contact, we can steer clear of General Order One.
I would have assumed that the reason for them going on the mission would have been covered before embarking on it! Especially the line: "The ambient radiation from a nearby drilling accident dried out their water table." Georgiou should have followed that up with, "I know, Michael. I was at the briefing too." All of this information is stuff the characters should already know, and they are repeating it solely for the benefit of an unseen audience (us).
Heh, in that case they might just as well be talking to an unseen audience. They're trying to cover their asses in what is actually quite a PD violation - of course they would be lying to each other and themselves loud and clear in order to pretend everything was fine. 
Then again, it's a well-established character fault: Burnham is always mansplaining to people around her, telling Pike what WWIII was or Tyler who the Klingons are or Spock what being half-Vulcan means. Nice of the writers to remain consistent there!
Timo Saloniemi
Then again, it's a well-established character fault: Burnham is always mansplaining to people around her, telling Pike what WWIII was or Tyler who the Klingons are or Spock what being half-Vulcan means. Nice of the writers to remain consistent there!
Timo Saloniemi
In Maneuvers, Kazon break in, steal components from the transporter room and beam themselves away. It then turns out that all of Voyager's transporters have gone offline, presumably including the ones on the shuttles. Even putting aside the issue of how breaking one machine would simultaneously break all the others, one has to wonder how the thieves used the transporter to escape just after they've sabotaged it.
On a slightly related note, I've always wondered how a transporter is supposed to transport itself (such as those small portable personal transporter devices, or the pseudo 29th century Borg with "internal transporter nodes"). The only way I can make some marginal sense of it is that such systems contain a good deal of redundancy and that at no time all components are entirely dematerialised at the same time or some such thing ...
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