Weeping Angels=Who's Borg?

[Jax]

Nope because if this Doctor Who had aired in the 90's it would get higher ratings and if Noel aired now he would get lower because of the different TV landscape back then and now. Its not just ratings though because Doctor Who gets high marks compared to almost every other show in the UK when it comes to the reception of what it airs.

Ratings and more importantly the excellent critical reception from the majorty of fans & critics. This makes Doctor Who a great and succesful show under RTD and under Moffat since its return in 2005. Doctor Who introduced not only a entire new generation to Who, whom some had never even watched the older shows if even heard about them. It's also expanded Doctor Who to a far more global show than any point in its history.

 

[Bones2]

You seem to forget that critical response and audience numbers don't matter a jot to me. I'm interested in discussing the show itself. Silence in the Library got fewer viewers than Time Flight because ITV put up Britain's Got Talent against it? Was Britain's Got Talent better? Of course not, it's the worst thing to happen to TV since Simon Cowell's last abomination of a show, but still people watch it, and still the Radio Times will put it in their choice section week after week. I really don't care. People are idiots. Ratings and critical reception don't equate to being good. Kinda was the worst received story of season 19, but it's a top 10 story for me and I'd take it over the others in a heartbeat. I'm interested in the stories themselves, not what some undemanding fuckwits who'd just as soon watch BGT or media fuckwits thought of them. Why not give this fallacy up and try discussing the program? It's a bit boring when you waffle on about viewers and reception; you shouldn't be so easily led.

 

[Jax]

You seem to be mis understanding me so I'll try it again. I didn't mean the give off the idea that ratings alone = a show being good or great. Reception in terms of reviews from the public and press is the sole way to judge quality of a product.

You need good reviews across the board to be considered a product of high quality and Doctor Who has had no trouble in that department since 2005. The ratings is a way to judge commerical success of a product and Doctor Who is also that. BGT and shows like it are commerically very successful but recieve a very mixed reception from the public and press so it cannot be considered to be as good in terms of quality as Doctor Who.

The facts speak for themselves Doctor Who has been a commerical success since 2005 but in terms of it being a show of quality, which you argue its not for a much of the past 5 years...Doctor Who has been praised by the press and general viewing public under the reign of RTD and Moffat.

You say

critical reception don't equate to being good

BUT it does...movies, tv shows, video games etc all use critical reception to ascertain its quality to the general world. You want a discussion here you go but you'll trot out the public and press are idiots simply because they disagre with you so you don't want a discussion, you just want to spend a few hours a day bashing RTD.

 

[TedShatner10]

USS Bones would get on very well with the perpetually angry, hard to please fellow nerd ragers over on Stardestroyer.Net (I'm called Big Orange over there).

While I can agree that Russell T. Davies left the franchise at the right time and many of us were starting to get burned out on David Tennant, the amount of heartfelt vitriol and angry, almost incoherent rambling over "The End of Time" released on that thread is a sight to behold.

 

[Sabataage]

Only in the sense that they're absolutely terrifying in small doses, but less so as time goes on. Fortunately the very thing which makes the Weeping Angels scary limits what you can do with them story wise. We'll have to wait to see though if Moffat (or the next showrunner) overuses them for cheap ratings like what Berman/Braga did with Voyager.

 

[TedShatner10]

The Weeping Angels are not like the Borg really, they're Cosmic Horrors like Satan and the Midnight Entity, not a relatively conventional foe like the Borg: the Borg are more like the Daleks and Cybermen, they're frightening partially because their technology is bigger and more advanced, but at least they're as rooted in this Universe as us and made of conventional matter and partially organic.

And

Spoiler

I heard the Weeping Angels are going to turn up in the SJA. Now THAT sounds like a cheap ratings ploy!

 

[Shatnertage]

Does "tit" have a different meaning in the UK (I'm assuming Bones is from the UK) than it does in the US? Because when someone says "prancing tit doctor," I think of a tipsy mammologist or something, not David Tennant. Makes reading this stuff amusing sometimes.

 

[Starkers]

Tit generally means breast in the UK. Making a tit of oneself equates to making an idiot of yourself.

 

[Shatnertage]

OK--thanks for the clarification. This place has done wonders for my vocabulary, if nothing else.

 

[Bones2]

Yeah, tit can mean idiot. It goes well with the prancing adjective, and adequately describes Tennant's Doc for me. "Prancing tit" sounds better than "prancing idiot" or "prancing berk" or "prancing moron" to me. We all say prancing tit where I come from.

 

[Shatnertage]

^ See, "berk" is another word we don't really use over here. I'm finding very creative ways to insult people.

Once I figured out what "taking the piss" meant, I kept on trying to use it in conversation. Luckily my wife lived in London for six months, so she got it. Hell, she's the one who explained it to me.

This is why the Internet is awesome.

 

[The Blue Savant]

By that logic, any new or latest villain is that shows Borg.

Borg should be synonymous with Overused Last Great Villain.

Don't get me wrong... I like the Borg and I liked almost everything they were in. It's when they showed up in the finale of Voyager and were even in Enterprise that I just said... "No more."

You watch, they'll put the Borg in "Star Trek 2" You'll see what I mean. XD

Anyways, the Weeping Angels are still fresh and not overused and I heavily expect more villains to be invented as the years roll by.

The analogy of the Borg are Star Trek's Cybermen works much much better.