LOL, actually speak to YWF in private? No.
Okay I will send him an impassioned plea.
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Okay I will send him an impassioned plea.
EDIT: DONE!
We should do our own 'star trek voyager'
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Excellent. This is starting to move along nicely
WE need Flash animators and artists
WE need Flash animators and artists
Guys somehow I feel this won't get off the ground so I'm opting out of doing a script. Here are two of my favorite ideas I created in the past though you can feel free to pillage.
Untitled Borg Episode, Voyager
On an away mission to a planet where they hope obtain vital supplies from a technologically advanced civilization, Seven, Harry, B’Ellana and the Doctor must evade capture and escape the Borg when dozens of borg cubes arrive to assimilate the planet.
The show opens with Seven, Harry, B’Ellana and the Doctor attempting to barter with an engineer in a busy alien market for supplies, we discover that Voyager is adrift 60 lightyears away after an ion storm seriously damaged the nacelles and shuttles were sent in all directions in order to try and find the materials needed to repair them.
While nearing the end of their negotiations with the trader shadows form overhead and upon looking up the crew see hundreds of borg cubes. We also see this from the perspective of other people around the planet.
Seven informs the crew that attempting to escape in the shuttle back to Voyager would be too dangerous and that hiding on the planet would be a safter option. They must safety to the other side of the planet where Seven believes there is a crystalline formation underground that can shield them from Borg sensors and they will be able to wait until the cubes depart. Flying towards their destination, their shuttle crashes and is destroyed near a village, there they must race against time to repair an old shuttlecraft belonging to a villager in order to reach safety.
Hollow Image, Voyager
An ensign in engineering successfully replicates the Doctor’s mobile emitter which he uses to secretly create a hologram of his girlfriend who died 6 months previously and attempts to reintroduce her to the crew as the real article.
During an engineering shift, the crew are shocked to see their lost crewmate Ensign Sonya Knight appear for duty. She appears dazed and confused and says she doesn’t remember much about the last 6 months other than being abducted and undergoing some experiments.
An initial medical examination by the Doctor assisted by her boyfriend Ensign Michael Rhodes shows that she is indeed the same Sonya Knight who disappeared on an away mission 6 months ago. Sonya is eager to reintegrate into the crew and reunite with Ensign Rhodes. Soon, small suspicions begin to form regarding Sonya as she refuses point blank to work on a project involving long wave cyclophasic radiation- a field in which she is talented, and appears to have suddenly forgotten some things about her time on Voyager.
An accident in Engineering is attended by the Doctor when suddenly a bust of the cyclophasic radiation destablisizes his matrix and the mobile emitter drops to the ground. Later on in engineering another mobile emitter is discovered and when activated Torres discovers that it is Ensign Knight.
Rhodes is brought to Janeway’s ready room to be told when he admits that he had spent the last 6 months making a replica of the holo-emitter in the hope that he could recreate her by using her extensive logs and the logs of the entire Voyager crew. He further admits that Knight does not know she is a hologram and it could cause her program to self destruct if she finds out.
The discovery that Rhodes had successfully created another mobile emitter sparks a debate among the crew. Ensign Rhodes argues that with Knight’s memories, the hologram is still her but only in another form, while other members of the crew have a more spiritual view of the situation.
The crew also begin to discuss the possibilities and ethics behind creating new sentient holograms to assist Voyager in its journey to get home .
Soon however the holo-emitter of Ensign Knight begins to degrade and Ensign Rhodes must once again lose his love.
And even if I did try my hand at script-writing and it didn't turn out great, it doesn't mean season 3 was good!
(Also, I'm aware this thread was created as a big joke on me -_- , I can live with it)
Untitled Borg Episode, Voyager
On an away mission to a planet where they hope obtain vital supplies from a technologically advanced civilization, Seven, Harry, B’Ellana and the Doctor must evade capture and escape the Borg when dozens of borg cubes arrive to assimilate the planet.
The show opens with Seven, Harry, B’Ellana and the Doctor attempting to barter with an engineer in a busy alien market for supplies, we discover that Voyager is adrift 60 lightyears away after an ion storm seriously damaged the nacelles and shuttles were sent in all directions in order to try and find the materials needed to repair them.
While nearing the end of their negotiations with the trader shadows form overhead and upon looking up the crew see hundreds of borg cubes. We also see this from the perspective of other people around the planet.
Seven informs the crew that attempting to escape in the shuttle back to Voyager would be too dangerous and that hiding on the planet would be a safter option. They must safety to the other side of the planet where Seven believes there is a crystalline formation underground that can shield them from Borg sensors and they will be able to wait until the cubes depart. Flying towards their destination, their shuttle crashes and is destroyed near a village, there they must race against time to repair an old shuttlecraft belonging to a villager in order to reach safety.
Hollow Image, Voyager
An ensign in engineering successfully replicates the Doctor’s mobile emitter which he uses to secretly create a hologram of his girlfriend who died 6 months previously and attempts to reintroduce her to the crew as the real article.
During an engineering shift, the crew are shocked to see their lost crewmate Ensign Sonya Knight appear for duty. She appears dazed and confused and says she doesn’t remember much about the last 6 months other than being abducted and undergoing some experiments.
An initial medical examination by the Doctor assisted by her boyfriend Ensign Michael Rhodes shows that she is indeed the same Sonya Knight who disappeared on an away mission 6 months ago. Sonya is eager to reintegrate into the crew and reunite with Ensign Rhodes. Soon, small suspicions begin to form regarding Sonya as she refuses point blank to work on a project involving long wave cyclophasic radiation- a field in which she is talented, and appears to have suddenly forgotten some things about her time on Voyager.
An accident in Engineering is attended by the Doctor when suddenly a bust of the cyclophasic radiation destablisizes his matrix and the mobile emitter drops to the ground. Later on in engineering another mobile emitter is discovered and when activated Torres discovers that it is Ensign Knight.
Rhodes is brought to Janeway’s ready room to be told when he admits that he had spent the last 6 months making a replica of the holo-emitter in the hope that he could recreate her by using her extensive logs and the logs of the entire Voyager crew. He further admits that Knight does not know she is a hologram and it could cause her program to self destruct if she finds out.
The discovery that Rhodes had successfully created another mobile emitter sparks a debate among the crew. Ensign Rhodes argues that with Knight’s memories, the hologram is still her but only in another form, while other members of the crew have a more spiritual view of the situation.
The crew also begin to discuss the possibilities and ethics behind creating new sentient holograms to assist Voyager in its journey to get home .
Soon however the holo-emitter of Ensign Knight begins to degrade and Ensign Rhodes must once again lose his love.
And even if I did try my hand at script-writing and it didn't turn out great, it doesn't mean season 3 was good!
(Also, I'm aware this thread was created as a big joke on me -_- , I can live with it)
Well the bad guy's minions at least, the big bad would be a voice over a hailing frequency. Pulling at the strings from the backgroud. Wheels within wheels after all Galactic domination does take some planning and foresight.
Bull. This thread was created as a joke on the entire Voyager forum.
Now where is a script going to come from? :x
Now where is a script going to come from? :x
(Raises hand) I'm more of an idea and outline man than a script man, though. So I could have some starting ideas... and then someone could develop the scripts, I guess? 
I would be up for writing an occasional script or two, however.
At least, I believe that's how TV does it, they have outline people and script people. Sometimes the script people write outlines and sometimes the outline people write scripts.
You Will Fail: We'll let you know when we have a press kit, if you're interested in signing on then
Even if it doesn't end up getting off the ground in the end, I say we try it. It should be a good experience.
When it comes to flash animators, hmm... there's got to be some around the board here somewhere.
I would be up for writing an occasional script or two, however.At least, I believe that's how TV does it, they have outline people and script people. Sometimes the script people write outlines and sometimes the outline people write scripts.
You Will Fail: We'll let you know when we have a press kit, if you're interested in signing on then
Even if it doesn't end up getting off the ground in the end, I say we try it. It should be a good experience.
When it comes to flash animators, hmm... there's got to be some around the board here somewhere.
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For your consideration... 3 scenes from a potential script... one specifically chosen to intrigue Teacake.
ACT IV:
Scene Seven
Voyager Bridge : All the senior staff are present... except Janeway. Day 10. 8 am
B'Elanna: (raging!) This is Insane! I can't believe you two are going along with this!
Chakotay: (loudly) Believe it, Lieutenant! Now prepare the Aerowing - she's launching Tomorrow at 0 900 hours.
Paris: (jumps up from the conn) Now wait a minute! B'Elanna's right. NOTHING's changed since yesterday when you and Tuvok BOTH signed our petition... what gives?
Tuvok: (unperturbed) "Nothing Gives", Mr Paris. New data has caused us to refine our positions, nothing more.
Kim: (scoffs) New data! What new data? Everything we've learned from our probes and subsequent away missions to the Array have CONFIRMED it's a death trap!
Tuvok: Not necessarily, Mr. Kim. The Captain & I have modified Lt Torres' portable containment shield generator to be used on the Array. That, with the modified environmental suit, and the new radiation vaccines from the Doctor, will give the Captain sufficient protection.
Seven: (brusquely) I wish to see these shield generator specifications.
Tuvok: That would serve no useful purpose... but they are in the tactical database. Review them if you wish... but be aware... the Doctor has already signed off on this mission... she IS leaving.
Seven: (anger?) We shall see.
(Seven exits)
Chakotay: The Captain's made her decision. -- I don't like it any more than you, but we must abide by it...
Paris: (walks up till he's in Chakotay's face) Since when?
B'Elanna: (joins Tom) This isn't like you, Chakotay.
Paris: Exactly! The man who defied Janeway over the Equinox crew? Who had to be relieved of command and confined to quarters???? Since when do YOU back down when she makes a CLEARLY wrong headed decision?
Chakotay: (anger rising) ENOUGH, Paris! (looks to Tom) You have your orders. If you can't follow them... then I'll strip you of your rank and confine you to the brig!
Kim: (chin jutting out) And if we ALL refuse?
Tuvok: (threatens calmly) We can turn the entire of deck 7 into a brig if we need to....
B'Elanna: (disgusted) I don't believe this is happening...
Chakotay: BELIEVE IT! (turns in circles to make eye contact with every member of the bridge crew) One way OR another... you WILL be arriving in the Alpha quadrant Tommorrow. (stops to stare down Paris) Will it be piloting the Conn, Mr Paris... or as a passenger under lock and key? Decide. Now.
Scene Eight
SickBay. The Doctor is humming a folk tune as he works. Day 10. 9:20 am
(Seven enters)
Seven: (lays a padd upon his desk) This data is flawed. Explain.
EMH: (looks down at the padd) I'd love to... but you're going to have to give me more info than that.
Seven: (impatiently) Tuvok said the modified portable shield generator, along with your new vaccines and the environmental suit will protect the Captain from the effects of Radiation poisoning on the Array. My calculations indicate all it will do is delay death from 1 week to 4 weeks.
EMH: (looks uninterested) Indeed?
Seven: Why did you sign off on this mission, if you knew this plan is flawed?
EMH: (turns to pick up some blood samples) If you look closely, I never said the plan was sufficient... only that it was substantially improved over the original.
Seven: (spits out her words) SEMANTICS! I thought you were above such lies. How could you allow yourself to be used in this way? To DECEIVE this crew and your Captain?!
EMH: (pride mixing with anger at her impudence) I Resent that accusation, Seven! The Captain has NOT been deceived in any way by this report, THAT I CAN assure you!
Seven: (won't budge) Then why would she accept an assignment that means her certain death?
EMH: (reaches to put the blood samples in the analyzer.) You'll have to ask her yourself. I'm not at liberty to discuss it.
Seven: (begins to walk away, but turns to toss one further accusation) More semantics, Doctor?
EMH: (he snaps) Not semantics! Ethics!
Seven: (sneers) Since when is it ethical to LIE, Doctor?
EMH: (sneers back with equal deadliness) One would THINK, after working for 4 years with a Vulcan... that you'd have learned the difference between lieing... and refusing to tell the truth.
Seven: (harshly) Hiding behind Vulcan philosphy now? It seems beneath you.
EMH: (walks forward until he has Seven by the arm and has escorted her the rest of the way to the sickbay doors) Then how about hiding behind "Doctor - Patient" privilege? (doors swish open) NOW GO! -- I have WORK to do!
(The EMH steps back from the doors, allowing them to close on Seven.)
Scene Nine
Janeway's quarters. Day 10. 10:15 am . Janeway is packing.
(Door Chimes)
(Seven Enters)
Seven: (she's upset, and it shows) Captain? I have analyzed the schematics on the portable shield generator you and Tuvok have modified.... (Seven is struggling to gain her composure. Janeway ignores her failure)
Janeway: (still packing, says simply) And you've detected a flaw.
Seven: (surprised, control slipping further, She can simply croak out a single word) Yes.
Janeway: (going through her cabinet until she finds the Romulan Ale) You've discovered that it is only going to provide partial protection... and that I've "maybe" 6 weeks to live if I go through with this.
Seven: (tortured, whispers...) Four.
Janeway: (stops, looks down at the nearly full trunk, then over at Seven) Not even as long as I thought. Seems like a waste... packing so much for such a short trip.
Seven: (is in agoney) Captain.....
Janeway: (can't look at her pain. Swallows and sighs.) You haven't told anyone yet... I hope.
Seven: (confused, tries to walk closer to look in Janeway's eyes.) No.... I....
Janeway: (interrupts) Good.
(Janeway walks over to her bookcase and studies the titles stamped on the bindings)
Janeway: I'd appreciate it if you'd help us keep up the subtrefuge for a few more hours....(she picks out 8 volumes.) I know... it would be easier to download everything in my library onto 1 simple padd, but I soooooo like the feel of a book in my hands when I read it.
(As Janeway carries them to her trunk, she finally looks up at Seven... and is appalled at what she sees. A tear has escaped from Seven's right eye.)
Janeway: Seven...?
Seven: (half whispers, half confesses) Captain. ... I .... know.
Janeway: (becomes wary) Know? Know what?
Seven: (lifts a padd) I accessed your medical file this morning.
Janeway: (reaction is instantaneous and incensed!) SEVEN! You had No Right, NO RIGHT! Do you hear me!
Seven: (flinching in pain with every rebuke, she pleads) Captain....
Janeway: (stalks away, and then back at the woman) How Dare you!
Seven: (does not shrink away from the Captain's tirade, although she can't duplicate it) Why didn't you tell us? Tell ... SOMEone?
Janeway: (looks down at the books in her hands, and throws them into the trunk with a great crash) Tell? What's to tell? (she turns her back on Seven and walks over to the viewport.) "Good morning crew. I'm sorry to inform you... but 6 years ago your Captain contracted the phage. The Doctor was able to expand it's usual dormant phase but that phase has now ended. We expect her to fall ill within 4 - 6 months, and without replacement parts she's expected to die within 6 - 9 months." (Janeway turns back to Seven) Is that what you want me to tell 140 men & women I've come to know and love these last 7 years... (Janeway walks back to the trunk. She lowers the lid and locks it before standing back up to face the young woman) Believe me, Seven, its better for all concerned if we let them think I died a glorious death saving their lives... than for me to remain on board this ship (looks about fondly) sitting behind a biohazard field in sickbay... accepting condolences as I whither away. Never knowing if my crew will EVER get home.
Seven: (control non-existant) And what about those of us who canNOT face either scenario?
Janeway: (she walks up to her protege) Seven.... (Janeway reaches up to wipe the tears from Seven's cheek) Death is a fact of life...... (Janeway looks embarrassed, and brings her hand down to her side.) You will adapt.
Seven: (gasping in remembered pain, Seven cries out and backs away from Janeway.) Noooo... that is what "One" told me before HE died in my arms..... (tears take over the ex-drone and she collapses upon the couch.)
Janeway: (appalled at what she's done, sits next to Seven and puts her arms around the quaking shoulders. Soon she is rocking her, like she was a six year old child again.) Oh God, Seven. I'm so sorry, forgive me. Forgive me... I swear I didn't mean to hurt you...you weren't to know... Oh god.... Shushhhh, I'm so sorry... Shusshhh... it's going to be alright, you'll see... shushhhh ... You're going to get through this.... Yessss, You're going to be alright.... No matter what happens.... You're going to be fine... trust me.... Shushhh.....
Seven: (turns to hide her tears by burying her face in Janeway's shoulder.) How... How will I do this... without you?
Janeway: (laughs gently as she continues to rock) I asked my mother that... when my father died. "How were we going to go on?" She told me "that" was what children and relationships were for... When we lose someone we love.... our parents... our spouse.... We have to take that love for them and put it somewhere else. Seven.... Anika.... I learned to put it into my crew... and into you. You will put it into Icheb, and Mezoti, and Azan... and Rebi.
Seven: (unconvinced) I wish now that you had never rescued me from the Borg Queen... if love hurts this much.
Janeway: (chuckling though her own tears) No you don't, Seven. It's because love can FEEL this much, that makes it so powerful. More powerful even, than the Borg... or the Phage... or time & space itself. (brushing back her own tears, Janeway bends down to whisper) You'll see, Annika. You'll see.... I promise.
Very well written and very emotional! I'm interested to know how Janeway contracted the phage. This script would be a fitting ending to show the sacrifice she would give her crew. If she does die in that script, it would be a much better death for Janeway than that Q death.
I think it is EXCELLENT and very very good voices (better than a lot of Treklit I must say) of the characters.
You are now the script writer and Lipton is the consultant.
Now we need to decide length of this script.
You are now the script writer and Lipton is the consultant.
Now we need to decide length of this script.
You obviously don't know this forum very well. We love taking one person's dribble and turning it into an epic thread
teacake: Yes, length is an important decision. I wonder if we should make our episodes a half-hour long for a regular episode (considering there will be no commercials) and one hour for premieres/finales.
Also, am I correct in assuming this script will be a standalone pilot/test script?
But perhaps the concept could be adapted and used again as the series finale. Thoughts?
Collingwood Nick: Too late, you got everyone's dander up. Joke or no joke, we'll probably end up making something
Also, am I correct in assuming this script will be a standalone pilot/test script?
But perhaps the concept could be adapted and used again as the series finale. Thoughts?
Collingwood Nick: Too late, you got everyone's dander up. Joke or no joke, we'll probably end up making something
I think we need to consult the flash people as to length. I have no idea how difficult it is to do and if a half hour ep is weeks of work or whatever.
Anyone post in the fan art forum or have any flash people contacts?
Anyone post in the fan art forum or have any flash people contacts?
It doesn't take as long as regular animation, I understand it's easier to do... but beyond that, I don't know.
I was just throwing an estimate out there. I could be way off. I don't personally know anyone who does flash animation.
I will browse the fan art and fan production forums. Someone on this board must work with it, it's a very popular form of animation.
I was just throwing an estimate out there. I could be way off. I don't personally know anyone who does flash animation.
I will browse the fan art and fan production forums. Someone on this board must work with it, it's a very popular form of animation.
Feel free to start a recruitment thread! Would prefer they actually liked VOY though.
Browsing through the threads in that section, I came across this:
If I recall, Star Trek: The Animated Series was done with limited animation. Limited animation might be even easier to do with flash media.
Yes, people who liked VOY would be more apt to do it for free! The main thing is we just don't have much experience with how flash media works and would need to ask people who know what it's like for input before we know what we're dealing with here.
Now, this raises some important questions. This is a different case, of course, since there are others doing a lot of other work and the animators aren't doing every single thing. It would depend a lot on how many animators we could get plus the length of each episode and the complexity of the animation.Vektor said:
If I recall, Star Trek: The Animated Series was done with limited animation. Limited animation might be even easier to do with flash media.
Yes, people who liked VOY would be more apt to do it for free! The main thing is we just don't have much experience with how flash media works and would need to ask people who know what it's like for input before we know what we're dealing with here.
Maybe we should just make finger puppets and film them with voice added. And diorama style backdrops.
Lol! I did some more browsing, and it appears a lot of fan production people are doing things much more elaborate than flash media... they're doing CGI work for live action, and I don't think they're being paid. I don't know how they go about contacting one another, they're mostly just posting their finished products here.
I got to thinking about the context of that quote in Fan Art. They probably mean things where someone asks someone to draw a bunch of pictures for free, when the people asking aren't doing any work.
Anyway, I feel it is possible to get some kind of flash animation working. Again, I should probably see what the fan production people say about this case.
Of course, if that doesn't pan out for whatever reason, we could do a finger puppet thing or an audio series, like a radio theater sort of thing.
Oh, and something cool I found out is that in the Fan Production categories they have: film, animation, and audio-only. So apparently people are making audio fan productions already! Interesting.
Nevertheless, I will ask the fan productions peeps about animation in this case... after I get some sleep!
I got to thinking about the context of that quote in Fan Art. They probably mean things where someone asks someone to draw a bunch of pictures for free, when the people asking aren't doing any work.
Anyway, I feel it is possible to get some kind of flash animation working. Again, I should probably see what the fan production people say about this case.
Of course, if that doesn't pan out for whatever reason, we could do a finger puppet thing
or an audio series, like a radio theater sort of thing. Oh, and something cool I found out is that in the Fan Production categories they have: film, animation, and audio-only. So apparently people are making audio fan productions already! Interesting.
Nevertheless, I will ask the fan productions peeps about animation in this case... after I get some sleep!
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I like the idea of having finger puppets (with removable heads, for different expressions) or whatever and having it really low tech but having a great script.
Seen the Star Trek Meerkats?
http://www.etsy.com/shop/niftyknits?section_id=6385539
BUT BUT BUT I had this idea of what this production totally needs.
T.D. POSSUM and FROOT
[yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0MSBCGYWfI&context=C4b3b1fbADvjVQa1PpcFNT9jH7Q0EPv5XzCcdgTpVMgMIzPCe6Q0o=[/yt]
[yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjbIUHBz1LY&list=PL27B4FA12E3BB5596&index=16&feature=plpp_video[/yt]
Have to go to bed now but I'm going to see if I can suck them in tomorrow. JRulez if you have any direct way to contact them maybe you could point them threadward?
Seen the Star Trek Meerkats?
http://www.etsy.com/shop/niftyknits?section_id=6385539
BUT BUT BUT I had this idea of what this production totally needs.
T.D. POSSUM and FROOT
[yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0MSBCGYWfI&context=C4b3b1fbADvjVQa1PpcFNT9jH7Q0EPv5XzCcdgTpVMgMIzPCe6Q0o=[/yt]
[yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjbIUHBz1LY&list=PL27B4FA12E3BB5596&index=16&feature=plpp_video[/yt]
Have to go to bed now but I'm going to see if I can suck them in tomorrow. JRulez if you have any direct way to contact them maybe you could point them threadward?
Length?
Who said it hasn't already been written?
Like BSG's series finale... its a three parter. These scenes are very near the end of the 1st "hour".
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