We Have All The Time In The World: OHMSS Turning 50

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  1. SantaEddie74

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    The Marc Lawrence Theory is one you can take or leave. But if you seriously believe the Code Name Theory you just haven't been paying attention.
     
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  2. The Old Mixer

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    Also Robert Brown, if we're not assuming that Admiral Hargreaves became M.

    Shane Rimmer had uncredited roles in YOLT and DAF, and played the American sub captain in TSWLM.

    Walter Gotell's SPECTRE agent in FRWL may or may not have survived.
     
  3. SantaEddie74

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    We almost got Grace Jones in the most recent Bond film based on rumors she had been approached to appear and things fell apart. That would have made her the first supporting actress after Maud Adams to appear in the franchise as two different female characters.
     
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    Without getting specific in a non-spoiler discussion, there are more than a few OHMSS references in No Time to Die.
     
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    If we're going as deep as extras, there was one guy who appeared in a solid string of the '70s and '80s films...he was either in the production staff or connected with it...who was always used in public reaction scenes to outlandish Bond stunts. IIRC, the first was in TSWLM when the Lotus drives out of the water onto the beach. Then the gondola scene in Moonraker, and when they skied over the tables in FYEO...not sure offhand what the others were. He was sort of the Stan Lee of the Bond franchise for a while there.

    I'd be shocked if nobody here knew the guy's name offhand.
     
  6. SantaEddie74

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    I just call him "Drunk Italian Guy" even though he shows up in Greece as well. :)
     
  7. Starkers

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    Including two DS9 appearances, one of which was as, you've guessed it, a gangster in Badda-Bing-Badda-Bang

    Other multiple film/character appearances.

    Ed Bishop is a NASA technitian in YOLT and then goes on to play Klaus Hergersheimer in DAF

    My own personal favourite though is Tsai Chin, the woman who "betrays" Bond at the start of YOLT reappears almost 40 years later as a poker player in Casino Royale. That's got to be the longest gap between appearances in the franchise.

    For most appearances though, Michael G Wilson?
     
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    Only two Bond girls have appeared in more than one film over the stretch of the franchise and as the exact same character. Sylvia Trench in Dr. No and From Russia With Love and over half a century later Madeleine Swann in Spectre and No Time to Die.

    Tracy is, of course, directly referenced or alluded to on multiple occasions after 1969 and Vesper is frequently spoken of and referenced throughout the four films set after her death.
     
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    If Barbara Bach hadn't declined we'd have had XXX briefly in AVTAK

    I don't think there's any reference to Vesper in Skyfall.
     
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    And now I remember Bert (Cato) Kwouk being in GOLDFINGER and YOU ONLY LIVE TWICE, but it took about 30 viewings for me to realize he seems to have bitten the dust in both episodes.

    Also caught the Bernard Lee portrait on the wall during my second viewing of NTTD.

    The main music theme is played once during a calm conversation between Bond and ''NuM''. I probably failed to catch that until my second viewing due to my Vic Hitler-narcolepsy. Armstrong factors in strongly.
     
  11. SantaEddie74

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    Pola Ivanova was a weak replacement for Anya Amasova. Seeing her and Bond reunited in the Zorin investigation would have been one of the most fun moments in the entire franchise.
     
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    Was it Ringo's fault...?
     
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    You've gotta pay your dues if you want their side to lose.
     
  14. BILL Clay

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    When I organized alternate Oscar nomination choices (some of which overlapped with the actuals), I toyed with the idea of nominating Lois Maxwell 14 times for Best Supporting Actress......but since that would only lead to Susan Lucci-style results, I gave her one for GOLDFINGER. (Her exchange with Bond in YOLT is my personal favorite).

    I wound up nominating Connery for FRWL and GOLDFINGER, Bernard Lee for DR. NO, Desmond Llewelyn for YOLT, Dalton for TLD and Craig for CASINO ROYALE, which he won. Claudine Auger, Akiko Wakabayashi {sic?}, Diana Rigg, Honor Blackman, Robert Shaw, Tania Mallett and Shirley Eaton. Blackman, Eaton and Shaw also won in their categories.
    I'm a huge THUNDERBALL fan, but I decided to pass over Leslie Nielsen for Best Supporting Actor....
     
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    Rigg would definitely have been the Bond actor from the '60s who'd have gotten an Oscar were in the position to give them one. She elevated an already terrific script to the next level.

    OHMSS would likely have been great with another actress cast as Tracy but with Diana Rigg it became something even higher.
     
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    There's barely a handful of performances from any of the Bond movies that approach the level of deserving an Oscar nomination. Rigg in OHMSS is one, Daniel Craig and Eva Green in Casino Royale are the others. Maybe one for Judi Dench for Skyfall, but that seems like a sentimental nomination as much as anything.
     
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    I forgot to say Dench was my Best Actress winner for SKYFALL, which broke the Bond Girl formula like no film before.
    Also gave her Supporting noms for GOLDENEYE and QUANTUM......while Sophie Marceau was given an acting nom.

    I have to dispute the Cardinal while resting my case quickly, so I'll point out Jeff Bridges got a Best Actor nom for STARMAN.
     
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    How Jeff Bridges failed to win an Oscar for Starman and later Jim Carrey for Man in the Moon I'll never understand.
     
  19. SantaEddie74

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    24-year-old me just squeed at this video. As did 47-year-old me. :)

     
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    While It's a great thing to see, with that mod that lets you play GE and Perfect Dark in upscaled 4k with a mouse and keyboard (like a proper FPS), I personally don't need it in my life.
    *One of the co-creators of said mod is the person Calvin links in the description.

    Which was just an awful idea. And IMO the film's fatal flaw. Because all it does is naturally draw comparisons to a similar but far superior character. (And it doubles down on this with comparisons to yet another similar and [far] superior character with all the CR references.) It's especially problematic because, for the big dramatic beat to work, the audience needs to find said character compelling enough to grow attachment and compassion for. That's really hard to do when being bombarded with references to two nearly identical characters who did it much better.