Look at it like this. An Atom, even subatomic particles do what they're supposed to do, it's like they are programmed for a specific tasks, programmed to react the way they do.
In a Newtonian universe, maybe. But Heisenberg says differently.
Look at it like this. An Atom, even subatomic particles do what they're supposed to do, it's like they are programmed for a specific tasks, programmed to react the way they do.
You're still trying to take "energy cannot be destroyed" and make it mean something out of context. This time you're equating "energy cannot be destroyed" with "information cannot be destroyed." Nothing says that!
The actual Law of Conservation of Energy says "energy can be neither created nor destroyed, but can change from one form to another."
Take the words INTO DARKNESS, for example. Those same letters can be displayed as TNIO RKSNADSE. The letters are all still there. No letters were created or destroyed ... just changed from one form to another.
So, do they carry the same information? Has anything been lost?
Even if consciousness is some quantifiable energy pattern, it's still contained within the brain. It doesn't leave when you die. It dies right along with you and stays inside your head. The only place it's going is into the ground.
Look at it like this. An Atom, even subatomic particles do what they're supposed to do, it's like they are programmed for a specific tasks, programmed to react the way they do. What is this information? how is it stored? how does this information cause a particle do what it does?
An electron acts differently to a proton, the only reason this can be is if information/coding is telling it to act differently.
Now a particle doesn't have a brain so information for a particle doesn't constitute a brain. On an energy level information is stored differently.
If the universe is one big information cloud then all information is stored throughout all of it.
Just like every cell in your body has the same DNA/information in it, but each cell becomes something different. So you could say that every particle has some kind of DNA database which tells everything what to do and all information is contained within every single particle. Like a fractal I guess.
Your thoughts imply that the universe has intention, and it just screams "Omnipotent Creator" when I read it.
Your thoughts imply that the universe has intention, and it just screams "Omnipotent Creator" when I read it.
or "computer programmer".
I give up trying to make interesting discussion around here. It's too much of a challenge.![]()
The physics algorithm works like a dream, but the world-building itself could have done with more beta-testing. Unless we're the beta test, of course.Your thoughts imply that the universe has intention, and it just screams "Omnipotent Creator" when I read it.
or "computer programmer".
I hope they fired him. Such a lousy job.
Unless we're the beta test, of course.
Unless we're the beta test, of course.
Mind = TOTALLY BLOWN.
Unless we're the beta test, of course.
Mind = TOTALLY BLOWN.
Now THERE is one HELL of a thought...Beta test...wow
INTO, do not lament...I think you started one heck of an interesting thread conversation...all of you who posted have some pretty interesting and seemingly informed things to say...I would like to think our "essence", the literal fiber of our being exists in some form after the show is over...not in a religious sense, but in some form of quantum "return to the factory" way that can be added to this magnificence we call the Universe...ole' Carl said it best, IMHO:
Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
Mind = TOTALLY BLOWN.
Now THERE is one HELL of a thought...Beta test...wow
INTO, do not lament...I think you started one heck of an interesting thread conversation...all of you who posted have some pretty interesting and seemingly informed things to say...I would like to think our "essence", the literal fiber of our being exists in some form after the show is over...not in a religious sense, but in some form of quantum "return to the factory" way that can be added to this magnificence we call the Universe...ole' Carl said it best, IMHO:
Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
Yeah, I just pooped out the remains of a steak, and the cow had thought the same thing. I praised the tenderness of the fiber of his being, sang his spirit song to Carl Sagan, wiped my butt, and popped the top off another beer, giving praise to Ninkasa the Sumerian beer goddess, along with the cute poofy god of soft squeezable toilet paper.
Religious epiphanies have their ups and down like that.
Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
Sure it is. You can say we have not found the evidence yet, but if there is something that is measurable, which energy usually is, the absence of any evidence can be taken as evidence of absence.
Otherwise: hello, invisible pink unicorns!
How about this one: That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.
Christopher Hitchens said mine.
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