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WB's Justice League 2017 movie pre-discussion thread

Captaindemotion said:
I’ve a suspicion - nothing more than that, and I may well be proven wrong - that WB will retool their series over the next few years. People can dismiss the Affleck-leaving stories as clickbait but he has been at best non-committal over the last few months. Then you have the Joker origin film that won’t feature Jared Leto, while it’s far from clear that the planned Batgirl or Nightwing films will be in the same continuity as the current series.

If anything, it’s looking like they may take the same approach as their standalone animated movies - some may feature the same actors in the same roles, some may be direct sequels but they will not necessarily all exist in the same overall continuity.
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Yeah, I'd heard about the Joker origin film being unconnected, but not so much about Batgirl. (Not keeping track, I hadn't even heard about a Nightwing one).

While I said series, I meant more in the way that my friends and I would like the DC based movies to continue as I have enjoyed most of what I've seen so far. Going off older films, I'm quite used to them not being linked so that wouldn't bother me.
 
DC and Warner Bros. aren't "retooling" their shared universe; they're branching out beyond it to differentiate themselves from Marvel.

Batgirl has already been confirmed, unless I'm mistaken, to be a "DCEU" film, and the same thing goes for Shazam and Nightwing.
 
DigificWriter said:
DC and Warner Bros. aren't "retooling" their shared universe; they're branching out beyond it to differentiate themselves from Marvel.

Batgirl has already been confirmed, unless I'm mistaken, to be a "DCEU" film, and the same thing goes for Shazam and Nightwing.
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A bit like how Jon Snow was definitely dead and the Lord of the Rings tv show wouldn’t happen, then?
 
^ it’s not “provable” because they’ve released so little information about either of the Batman-related spin-offs (I didn’t mention the Shazam film in my post).

I specifically said that I could be wrong in my post but you’re presenting what is just as much an educated guess as mine as fact.

Here’s what you’re now presenting as “opinion” by the way, seeing as you seem to have forgotten:

This ain't happening, people.

Christopher Tolkien is the executor of the Tolkien Estate, and he has a hardline negative view of his father's works being adapted into other mediums and will not allow any more adaptations to be made.

Warner Bros. doesn't have television rights to the franchise, and the chances of Christopher Tolkien giving therm said rights are nonexistent.
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First you think we shouldn't base our money spending on advertising. Now you say we shouldn't base it on critics. So how should we decide what to see???? By the title?
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You should base it upon whether you really want to see the movie or not. Is that so damn hard? I can recall a movie that had a lousy trailer and bad reviews. I was almost tempted to ignore it. But a part of me was curious about it and I went to see it anyway. And I loved it. I'm not saying that this always happened, but it has happened a lot.

Are you saying that you're incapable of deciding whether or not to see a movie, based upon your own feelings?
 
@Captaindemotion: The comment you quoted was a facts-based opinion that turned out to be wrong, not because the facts that informed it were wrong, but because patterns of previous behavior were changed.

Also, Warner Bros. expanding beyond their shared universe rather than "retooling" it IS provable based on what we do in fact know about their future slate of announced projects.
 
DigificWriter said:
^ That comment was a facts-based opinion that turned out to be wrong, not because the facts that informed it were wrong, but because patterns of previous behavior were changed.

Also, Warner Bros. expanding beyond their shared universe rather than "retooling" it IS provable based on what we do in fact know about their future slate of announced projects.
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Splitting hairs does not even begin to do this post justice. Whatever, man.
 
Anwar said:
Because you cared when they praised Wonder Woman.
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Really? Do you claim to be psychic? Because . . . guess what? You're wrong. Although I enjoyed "Wonder Woman", I found some of the high praise for the film rather excessive and annoying for my own personal reasons. Next time, ask me how I feel, instead of arrogantly assuming that you know how I feel.

By the way, are you really that pissed that I would criticize the idea of depending too much on movie critics? Are you a movie critic?
 
LJones41 said:
You should base it upon whether you really want to see the movie or not. Is that so damn hard? I can recall a movie that had a lousy trailer and bad reviews. I was almost tempted to ignore it. But a part of me was curious about it and I went to see it anyway. And I loved it. I'm not saying that this always happened, but it has happened a lot.

Are you saying that you're incapable of deciding whether or not to see a movie, based upon your own feelings?
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You can't be serious at this point. You just can't be.
 
John Clark said:
Yeah, I'd heard about the Joker origin film being unconnected, but not so much about Batgirl. (Not keeping track, I hadn't even heard about a Nightwing one).

While I said series, I meant more in the way that my friends and I would like the DC based movies to continue as I have enjoyed most of what I've seen so far. Going off older films, I'm quite used to them not being linked so that wouldn't bother me.
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If you don't care about the continuity, you don't have anything at all to worry about for a long time. As long as Marvel continues to clean up, DC has to keep trying to make these characters work, whether that's in this series or some other (or just as stand-alones). And even after that, WB would be stupid to just put them on ice indefinitely, unless the entire concept of superheroes becomes too passe.
 
^ Yes, even if WB decides not to carry on with this particular incarnation of their most famous heroes, we will almost certainly see new takes on Superman and Batman before long.
 
TREK_GOD_1 said:
I would not go to Vanity Fair for sound film reviews. This is the same magazine that loved dedicating cheerleading puff pieces on the Star Wars prequels and The Force Awakens as if they were the greatest thing since air.
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But this isn't just a bad review. It's a REALLY bad review. This review is calling the movie irredeemably bad. It's not common that a published review is THIS bad, and the movie ends up good.
 
Can we just get rid of Rotten Tomatoes, Metacritic, and film reviews altogether?

It's hard not to get depressed and worried that Warner Bros. is going to buy into perceptions and do something stupid such as abandoning the DCEU entirely.
 
DigificWriter said:
Can we just get rid of Rotten Tomatoes, Metacritic, and film reviews altogether?

It's hard not to get depressed and worried that Warner Bros. is going to buy into perceptions and do something stupid such as abandoning the DCEU entirely.
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Yeah, the echo chamber does seem overly destructive sometimes. For example, EA's Mass Effect series seems to have been entirely destroyed by very noisy trolls on message boards after a game (Andromeda) that's "ok" at worst.
 
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