I'm sure I remember hearing a scream after the gunshot..
The fact remains though that she shot herself for no reason whatsoever other than to dramatically prove a point.
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The fact remains though that she shot herself for no reason whatsoever other than to dramatically prove a point.
Nope, no scream. The house was empty, the Doctor had to open the door for her.
She shot herself to put the past back on the right track, He was trying to change what he had no right to.
Unless Harvey Keitel showed up and cleaned up before anyone found the body, changing things back would be impossible.
Personally, I found the Captain to be an ungrateful sod.
Maybe, maybe not, if her death was supposed to happen that day maybe it would put things right regardless of how she died.
Ungrateful, or just resentful for him forcing something on her that wasn't meant to be.
Ungrateful.Bob the Skutter said:
The kind of person that goes around saving people?
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Wasn't there an episode where the Doctor basically told the bad guys, "Take a second to look me up on the web. Done? Yeah. That's me. Now be afraid." Paraphrased, of course, but I seem to remember a scene like that.
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So you're implying that her simply dying on that day lead to everything the Doctor talked about. "Okay, litlte Susie, nana appeared magically in the bathroom all that time ago and shot herself in the head for no apparent reason whatsoever. Doesn't that inspire you to travel in space?! I mean, she did it, too, and look how it turned out for her! Be just like your nana, baby!"
The whole point was that she was supposed to die at the base, with the implication that despite not knowing the exact details, she was saving Earth from some horrific fate. Before the Doctor's intervention, she probably sent a quick message before detonating it. Not enough to say what happened, only to warn that it was the only way to save them all.
Regardless, she didn't inspire anybody by painting her bathroom with gray matter.
Depends, those who survived might tell people what happened on the base. It may people are told she killed herself to stop the infection spreading...So you're implying that her simply dying on that day lead to everything the Doctor talked about. "Okay, litlte Susie, nana appeared magically in the bathroom all that time ago and shot herself in the head for no apparent reason whatsoever. Doesn't that inspire you to travel in space?! I mean, she did it, too, and look how it turned out for her! Be just like your nana, baby!"
The whole point was that she was supposed to die at the base, with the implication that despite not knowing the exact details, she was saving Earth from some horrific fate. Before the Doctor's intervention, she probably sent a quick message before detonating it. Not enough to say what happened, only to warn that it was the only way to save them all.
Regardless, she didn't inspire anybody by painting her bathroom with gray matter.
Her grandaughter may be inspired by the fact she spent her life in pursuit of going to other planets, not the fact she died on Mars.
I thought the main story was ok, but nothing special. A lot of the time it felt to me like a rehash of The Impossible Planet/The Satan Pit (which I personally think was a lot scarier and better written than this). And if the Doctor really wanted to save the colonists, why didn't he just take them into the far distant future where they couldn't do any harm to history? They could adapt to whatever period they found themselves in, the Doctor could give them new identities, and none of their descendants lives would be mucked up.
Yes, but what I'm saying is it needn't neccessarily have been that drastic.
You can't possibly think it was that simple.
In the DW novel I Am a Dalek the Doctor travels back in time and alters history so that a man who died in the present after only having known his wife a short while gets to meet her earlier on in his life and thus spend more time with her than he did in the original scheme of things. But no one accused him of being an insane god then.
Well, no, but in the short term it would've been. The Doctor going into the next episode messing about with the timeline by saving people when he shouldn't would be the perfect catalyst for the clusterfuck The End Of Time promises to be.
She should have comitted suicide after the Doctor had left and we would've gone into the finale on a mini-cliffhanger.
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You seem to have rather missed the concept of the 'fixed point in time' that the Doctor explains here and we saw in the Pompeii episode. These are events which must happen - it is by choosing to mess with one that the Doctor 'crosses the line', not by simply choosing to alter the timeline at all - after all, he does that every episode.
Its not the first time he has done this though, in the episode Rose the Dr saved a family from sailing on the Titanic therefore saving them from certain death and no doubt changing history and that fixed point in time.
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